Wow...
So I gave the person who was saying " feminism is a repressive system" the benefit of the doubt and honestly assumed it must be snark.
It wasn't:
[I am saying that the "repressive system" of feminism is a] good thing. Any society needs to have restrictions upon the behaviour of its members. You can call the opposite anarchy or lawlessness as easily as freedom.
I'm so completely stunned now I don't even know how to respond. Does this person have any idea what kinds of things that phrase is usually used to describe?
I mean... I'm stunned. Of course there's a sense in which no social restrictions whatever would be a bad thing, but... that's not what any of us have been saying.
(Also, I am by no stretch of the imagination an anarchist and find what little I know of the theory disturbingly flawed, but to dismiss it with that much flippance is also disturbing to me.)
I never thought that feminists honestly thought of themselves as "replacing an old repressive system with a newer and better one." Wow. Wow.
Just... wow.
Like I said, so stunned I'm not sure if I can even comment back right now, because wow. I always thought certain radical feminisms hinted strongly at replacing a rigid and limiting social system with another one that would be equally rigid and limiting. I always thought this logically followed from systems/theories most intensely focused on "keeping women safe".
But I never thought I'd hear such paternalism so nakedly espoused.
Most people hide it.
I'm not sure whether to clap isme on the back for not beating around the bush like many do, or to sit here shivering in massive creepedoutitude.
It wasn't:
[I am saying that the "repressive system" of feminism is a] good thing. Any society needs to have restrictions upon the behaviour of its members. You can call the opposite anarchy or lawlessness as easily as freedom.
I'm so completely stunned now I don't even know how to respond. Does this person have any idea what kinds of things that phrase is usually used to describe?
I mean... I'm stunned. Of course there's a sense in which no social restrictions whatever would be a bad thing, but... that's not what any of us have been saying.
(Also, I am by no stretch of the imagination an anarchist and find what little I know of the theory disturbingly flawed, but to dismiss it with that much flippance is also disturbing to me.)
I never thought that feminists honestly thought of themselves as "replacing an old repressive system with a newer and better one." Wow. Wow.
Just... wow.
Like I said, so stunned I'm not sure if I can even comment back right now, because wow. I always thought certain radical feminisms hinted strongly at replacing a rigid and limiting social system with another one that would be equally rigid and limiting. I always thought this logically followed from systems/theories most intensely focused on "keeping women safe".
But I never thought I'd hear such paternalism so nakedly espoused.
Most people hide it.
I'm not sure whether to clap isme on the back for not beating around the bush like many do, or to sit here shivering in massive creepedoutitude.