If she were naked...
xposted from bppa
(those who prefer fluff, scroll down and stare at oobleck and unapologetically hot awesome fat women with mad style)
now, for the rest:
http://www.recl usiveleftis t.com/?p=685
(take out the spaces.) (poss trig -- the video shows graphic footage of verbal abuse and beating)
These people see a horrific video of a woman being degraded, insulted, and finally beaten, in which there is no sexual content at all, and all they can think of is "that's BDSM porn?" I quote from a comment quoted in the post:
I watched the video and thought how different the feminist reaction would be if he was raping her while saying all that and worse stuff unacceptable for primetime tv. Then it would be pornography.
Feminists would no longer be unanimous that scenes of him saying all those hateful things to a woman while doing specifically sexual violence to her on film were abuse. Some would defend it as sexual freedom. Some would praise it as transgressive BDSM erotica and therefore pro-woman.
The one thing I want to ask these people -- really, really want to ask -- is why everything is porn to them. Why everything is BDSM. I don't get it at all. It almost seems to me like they *want* these things to be porn. Like they *want* them to be sexual.
And that terrifies me. It terrifies me much more than the thought even of someone unapologetically hoarding and collecting pornography depicting mock torture and watching it over and over. That person I could understand. Could be, maybe, if you consider written stuff porn and know how often I read de Sade before bed.
But these people? They are sexualizing real abuse. And for all their indignance, I don't know why they would do that. It's like they're wishing she were naked, wishing she were being raped here, because it would serve their ends.
And how creepy is it that if it were depicting rape and beating, they would be watching it (over and over if my hunch is right), commenting on it, reproducing it, linking to it, pointing at it over and over to prove them right?
And the thing I see so clearly when I look at this is how *different* from BDSM or porn it looks. The man, until he gets up to beat her, is actually quite calm. He delivers his harangue not with passion but with cold, machine-like repetition. He almost seems like a robot to me, ticking off the same words over and over "you heifer... you heifer... you heifer." There's no emotion. There's certainly no raging hard-on, no mention, even oblique, of sexual desire.
When he beats her he becomes more animated. But again, I don't see sex. I don't see anything that would even make me think of sex. (And remember that for me, blows can be sexual, in the proper consensual context.) I see an angry person and a frightened person fending off blows.
I see power, misused and terrifying. But I don't see sexualization of that power anywhere.
I feel really creepy having to play Freud and say it, but: Sometimes a beating is just a beating.
"If she were naked, it would make a cracking good porn film."
Would it? What does it say about someone that she thinks so?
*runs for the brain bleach*
(those who prefer fluff, scroll down and stare at oobleck and unapologetically hot awesome fat women with mad style)
now, for the rest:
http://www.recl usiveleftis t.com/?p=685
(take out the spaces.) (poss trig -- the video shows graphic footage of verbal abuse and beating)
These people see a horrific video of a woman being degraded, insulted, and finally beaten, in which there is no sexual content at all, and all they can think of is "that's BDSM porn?" I quote from a comment quoted in the post:
I watched the video and thought how different the feminist reaction would be if he was raping her while saying all that and worse stuff unacceptable for primetime tv. Then it would be pornography.
Feminists would no longer be unanimous that scenes of him saying all those hateful things to a woman while doing specifically sexual violence to her on film were abuse. Some would defend it as sexual freedom. Some would praise it as transgressive BDSM erotica and therefore pro-woman.
The one thing I want to ask these people -- really, really want to ask -- is why everything is porn to them. Why everything is BDSM. I don't get it at all. It almost seems to me like they *want* these things to be porn. Like they *want* them to be sexual.
And that terrifies me. It terrifies me much more than the thought even of someone unapologetically hoarding and collecting pornography depicting mock torture and watching it over and over. That person I could understand. Could be, maybe, if you consider written stuff porn and know how often I read de Sade before bed.
But these people? They are sexualizing real abuse. And for all their indignance, I don't know why they would do that. It's like they're wishing she were naked, wishing she were being raped here, because it would serve their ends.
And how creepy is it that if it were depicting rape and beating, they would be watching it (over and over if my hunch is right), commenting on it, reproducing it, linking to it, pointing at it over and over to prove them right?
And the thing I see so clearly when I look at this is how *different* from BDSM or porn it looks. The man, until he gets up to beat her, is actually quite calm. He delivers his harangue not with passion but with cold, machine-like repetition. He almost seems like a robot to me, ticking off the same words over and over "you heifer... you heifer... you heifer." There's no emotion. There's certainly no raging hard-on, no mention, even oblique, of sexual desire.
When he beats her he becomes more animated. But again, I don't see sex. I don't see anything that would even make me think of sex. (And remember that for me, blows can be sexual, in the proper consensual context.) I see an angry person and a frightened person fending off blows.
I see power, misused and terrifying. But I don't see sexualization of that power anywhere.
I feel really creepy having to play Freud and say it, but: Sometimes a beating is just a beating.
"If she were naked, it would make a cracking good porn film."
Would it? What does it say about someone that she thinks so?
*runs for the brain bleach*