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Apr 13, 2007 15:48

Emptying out my bookmarks . . . hopefully to the interest of some ;-) . . .

Kaka/religion  - evangelical christianity in the context of football, football in the context of evangelical christianity. Too short.

The best fan in the world? - frankly, even puts the LFC mob to shame.

Extracts from the new Shevchenko book.

Footie poetry - yes, of course it's ( Read more... )

football: culture, player: andriy shevchenko, player: kaka

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lemongrasstea April 13 2007, 18:38:01 UTC
Thank you for the links! Interesting write-up re: football and religion -- I remember watching the Club World Cup final last year between Barcelona and SC Internacional from Brazil. Internacional won, and as usual half the players whipped off their jerseys in celebration. A good number of the players wore "I Belong to Jesus" undershirts similar to Kaka's.

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colourreporter April 13 2007, 19:00:09 UTC
Not only devout, but also a trend setter ;-). It would be interesting to see if there was any data anywhere about (active) religious affiliations within football . . .

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lemongrasstea April 13 2007, 19:24:59 UTC
I've seen a number of articles floating around, but most of them were on Muslim footballers -- probably because of the current issues and debates on migration, racism and politics, etc. There was also one on English football fans who're Jewish in the Guardian a while back (I should dig that up) on which team they'd support in the Israel v England match.

I don't tend to touch religion in the few stories I've written. Partly because for most of the people I write about, religion is part of the background and not the foreground; also because I feel too self-conscious about the personal and political experiences I carry into my writing. I was raised Sunni Muslim (I'm an atheist now) but went to a Catholic girls' school, and political and social forces shape religious discourse in my country in a way which is frankly terrifying.

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colourreporter April 13 2007, 19:37:28 UTC
English football fans who're Jewish in the Guardian yeah, I'd be really interested to read that if you've still got it kicking around . . .

for most of the people I write about, religion is part of the background and not the foreground superstition, I guess, rather than religion when it comes to crossing yourself before running onto the pitch. also, let it not be forgotten that when writing the gay secks, religious devotion is probably not going to feature heavily ;-)

I was raised Sunni Muslim (I'm an atheist now) but went to a Catholic girls' school was the school a deliberate choice or the only option? I'm intrigued with the current debate on religious schools over here . . .

political and social forces shape religious discourse in my country in a way which is frankly terrifying whereas in the States it seems to be swaying the other way . . .

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lemongrasstea April 13 2007, 19:55:55 UTC
I'll look through my bookmarks. Will probably compile a list of links soon-ish anyway, as I've got a terrible backlog built up while snowed under with work.

also, let it not be forgotten that when writing the gay secks, religious devotion is probably not going to feature heavily ;-)

*LAUGHS* Unless it's part of a kinky scenario, I suppose?

was the school a deliberate choice or the only option?

It was a deliberate choice, more or less. Catholic missionaries brought formal education to my part of the country, and traditionally the schools that performed best academically were mission schools. The school I went to was one of the most highly-regarded schools in my hometown. My parents were ambitious and that was before Islam really took on an evangelical fervour where I grew up (I feel old!).

I'm afraid it's become quite a tangled web now, where politics and religion and racism inform each other in the most poisonous way one can imagine. Well, this is what happens when opportunistic men use faith as a tool.

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colourreporter April 13 2007, 20:15:15 UTC
Yay for the links :-)

Unless it's part of a kinky scenario, I suppose? heh, religious kinks make me nervous ;-). I do think it's something that has to be considered though: especially with someone like Kaka who is so vocal about his faith. Either ignore it completely or factor it into the story in some way . . . it's a challenge. Obviously it's part of who he is - he'd probably say the biggest part . . .

Catholic missionaries brought formal education to my part of the country how Catholic was it as an institution? was the religious heritage background or foreground? my school was CofE, but in the most nominal sense . . . My parents were ambitious and that was before Islam really took on an evangelical fervour where I grew up so I take it it would now be unusual for the child of Muslim parents to go to a Catholic school? How usual was it when you went? (sorry: if you feel I'm being rude feel free to shout at me :-))

this is what happens when opportunistic men use faith as a tool scary.

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lemongrasstea April 13 2007, 21:18:16 UTC
Haha, no worries -- you're helping me stay up while I rushing a draft through a deadline! I hope you don't mind that I've stripped off specific details like the name of the country I'm from ( ... )

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colourreporter April 15 2007, 22:22:52 UTC
Sorry . . . rl intervention *sigh* . . .

I hope you don't mind that I've stripped off specific details like the name of the country I'm from. no, of course not :-).

I also remember taking classes in the nearby cathedral see now, that sounds like a bonus . . . also having nuns as teachers? which may be one of those things that sounds cooler than the actuality turns out . . . how did this pan out when it came to 'religious education'?

For example, a Muslim couple may happily agree to send their daughter to, say, a school named Greenhill Girls' School, but probably not one named St Francis Convent School or St Mary's Anglican Girls' School. and in response to this is there a move to, not conceal, but gloss over the religious heritage of institutions ( ... )

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