Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes... Tony Love Ahead!

Oct 26, 2010 22:34

Okay, so I was planning on reviewing/squeeing over The Next Avengers one of these days, but unfortunately before I could do so, I watched Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes and let me tell you... I am so besotted, it's slightly scary. It has intelligent plots! Villains with motives! Intelligent use of powers! Science! Fun! And already the promise ( Read more... )

fandom: marvel, char: tony stark, post: review

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angel_inoshi October 26 2010, 16:26:00 UTC
I totally hear you <3 I love the series and I'm just really excited to see where it's going. As far as the animation, I really don't mind it persay...it's one of those things that I think you just get used to...kind of like how "Spectacular Spiderman" was like (O_o)' in the character design as well, but the story made it all work.
I personally am happy Tony is leading the Avengers...though I'm not sure if it's because Marvel likes him or it's because his movies were a success and he's the golden cash cow for now. I want to see Steve too, but I believe next episode focuses on the Hulk being controlled by the Enchantress.
As for Hank...yeah I was like (._.) you know...I never knew Hank was that hott before. Then I went.....D8 Hey, how come Tony isn't hot? Poor Tony...I suppose they figure since Tony is going to be in his armor most the time, why worry...lol.
Bottom line - great series and I'm just going to enjoy the ride.

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fictivore October 26 2010, 16:38:54 UTC
Oh, I like the animation overall... Actually I like ALL of it... Except... Tony (and Pepper a bit)... Because Tony is supposed to be HOT, dammit!! That really is about my only problem with the whole thing as of now... (I am VERY happy, I'm sure you can tell *beam*) And WTF-ness at Hank's hotness was literally my first reaction... especially Hank compared to Tony... *is VERY shallow*

And Tony leading is definitely the cash-cow thing... But also, IIRC Tony actually was the first leader of the team in comics as well? No also, continuity... And frankly, with Tony's personality, is he ever gonna agree to work *under* someone he doesn't totally respect (in comics, I think, it's been only Steve and even then he was co-leader, so....)

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angel_inoshi October 26 2010, 19:01:27 UTC
I wasn't sure who actually first lead the Avengers since I had some people tell me Thor technically was the first chairman since they were dealing with Loki...but I really have no clue. A lot of my continuity is based more on recent canon and what is retconned really. As for Tony following...[smirks] yeah I can see that. I mean even if technically Maria Hill is the leader of the Avengers...Tony seems to be the one who really is the back-seat leader. I know when the Avengers cameo in other comic lines I keep going...hey, where is Hill? It's oddly weird like that with the Young Avengers too come to think of it...Patriot where did you go? XD

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fictivore October 26 2010, 19:25:34 UTC
Oh? I'm not too sure myself, but from the tiny bit of early canon I've seen Tony definitely didn't shy down from telling others what to do... Until, of course Steve got defrosted and he was made field-leader (then he spent a lot of time fan-boying instead!)... And then there's the canon of Force Works, I think? Where the official leader is someone else and there is actual on-page problems because Tony can't take the back-seat and sort-of leads, anyway...

Hill is... You know when Cap first declared she was gonna lead, I was 'yay' coz I thought a)Hill would be sort of leading from the control-room, tactics sort-of thing and b) Tony and Cap would both be working together on the field, apparently under Hill but obviously sort of taking control unconciously, so there'd be all sorts of delicious tension. Then it turns out that Steve is NOT gonna on the team and that Hill (who is completely un-powered) is gonna be on the field... And get owned while at it... That makes me= >:/

What's up with Patriot, btw?? *has no idea*

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angel_inoshi October 26 2010, 20:14:24 UTC
Ahhh yeah...don't get me started about Steve being on Secret Avengers instead of the regular Avengers...[fumes] Penumbren and I already went D:< especially when Marvel kept pushing the idea of the "Big Three" because of the upcoming movies and what not. I know I commented enough times asking people...how can that work if Steve is NEVER with Tony and Thor? If the idea was to split up and have senior Avengers on different teams, then someone should have gone with New Avengers...but alas we deal with Marvel logic.

As for Patriot...well it's just the oddness that when the Young Avengers appear outside of their own book (like in "I Am An Avenger") Patriot for whatever reason is never with them...and no one knows exactly why. We're like O_o' did we miss something? It's made all that much stranger because judging from the Bendis timeline thingy we were given, he's in the "Avengers Childrens' Crusade" which takes place sometime in the future.

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elspethdixon October 26 2010, 23:22:16 UTC
They had a Big Three poster up at NYCC with Bucky!Cap in place of Steve. It made me :(

(Personally, I think it's a mistake for Marvel to put Steve on Secret Avengers and Bucky in Steve's place on Adjectiveless Avengers - Bucky and Natasha running around doing secret agent black ops stuff with their own team would be way more awesome than Bucky on the Avengers, and Steve works far better on the Avengers where he belongs than leading a secret black ops-style team. That's far more suited to Bucky's skill set than it is to Steve's.)

eta: I think Bendis may be counting Luke Cage as a senior Avenger, considering that he's a) Bendis's favorite and b) relatively popular and a high profile character right now, despite having a short history with the team. That, or... isn't Clint on NA? Clint is a technically a senior/founding Avenger - Steve, Thor, Jan and the others voted him into "founding Avenger" status at some point in the hopes that it would make him stop sulking/whining about the fact that Steve will always, always be taller and ( ... )

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angel_inoshi October 27 2010, 01:35:50 UTC
Ahhhh yes, the NYCC poster made me go D8 I distinctly went !@#$%^& what is Bucky!Cap there for? HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I mean naturally Spidey is there since he's the flagship character (plus the three movies), Ironman for the success that is his two movies and Thor for his upcoming movie. Did the marketers forget that it's actually Bucky!Cap in the suit and not Steve? And if so...of all places to make the mistake with comic geeks galore ( ... )

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elspethdixon October 27 2010, 02:27:51 UTC
instead we get to see Bucky be the "new guy" and making rookie mistakes in Avengers.

Which is silly, IMO, because Bucky's not a rookie. He was Steve's sidekick and ran around with the Invaders in WWII, then he spent years being the Winter Soldier (which means he's got at least as much military/secret agent experience as Maria Hill, if not more) and he's spent a couple months in-universe-time now running around doing superhero stuff with Sam in CA. He ought to be depicted as up there with Jessica Drew and Maria in terms of experience, because he is. Unless it's only mistakes in terms of teamwork/playing well with others skills, because it has been a long time (since WWII) since he's been on anything resembling a team.

edited to fix italics and to add: Wait, Bucky may have more experience than Jessica. All of the time Spiderwoman spent being a SHIELD/HYDRA double agent was actually Skrullica, wasn't it, which means that Bucky's pretty much matched only by Natasha and Sharon for a combination of superheroing + secret agenting ( ... )

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fictivore October 27 2010, 04:02:58 UTC
I hear ya... Though, I've got this WMG now that they sort of *want* to show how Bucky doesn't work as Cap... I mean, we definitely know that Steve has to be back as Cap by the time the movie comes out for marketing reasons... And then we see him in Cap-niform in Children's Crusade... So that's inevitable...

So what if, the point of all this idiocy is to show to Steve in-universe that *he* really is Captain America... And get him to accept that Bucky really isn't that little kid who used to run with him... That Bucky is a 'black-ops' guy now, and that its OK for him to be so...

But then, I might be giving them too much credit! (-_-);

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