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Mar 15, 2009 15:10

Why is "MPREG, EEEW! What's wrong with you people for liking it?  You all want to turn gay men into girls, don't you?" still acceptable, when "What's wrong with you people for liking incest?  You all want to screw your brothers, don't you?" or "What's wrong with you people for writing underage fic?  You all get off at the thought of children being ( Read more... )

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akashathekitty March 15 2009, 21:36:49 UTC
You know, I skimmed that rant and its comments and I wondered why nobody really called them on it, but I hadn't the time to be the one to do it right then and there.

But sounds like that's changed since then. *shakes head*

I admit that I haven't really read MPreg because I only read slash very sporadically on the side. Whenever people mention it, I actually think of Sims and getting males abducted by aliens to make them pregnant with those adorable little green babies and then I want to play Sims and...eh...off-topic. What I'm getting at is that it doesn't squick me at all and it strikes me as such a relatively innocent kink/whatnot that I don't get why it's hated on so much.

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wolfy_writing March 15 2009, 21:49:37 UTC
Yeah. I don't mind people not being into it (people can not be into whatever they want), but it just seems to be the one kink it's socially acceptable for practically everyone on the com to hate on, and I don't get why it's supposed to be some special horror. Seriously, if the whole "Anything can be well written", "Your kink is okay even if it's not my kink", "Don't assume you know the writer by reading the fic" attitude of the com was applied with anything close to consistency, mpreg would not be The One Thing You Can All Hate on, or acceptable to treat as Proof They Really Want To Be Writing Het.

Little green babies! Cute!

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akashathekitty March 15 2009, 22:05:34 UTC
Here's my grown alien-spawn sim and her own green baby (he has Mum's genes): Behold the cuteness! Being bullied by his twin brother! :D (Of course, that's not really what they look like in the game, I downloaded another skin and did an alien override for prettier features, because, yeah, I like my sims pretty) ♥

Anyhoo, sorry about that. XD

To me, MPreg is something that wouldn't turn me off a story, but, as with absolutely everything, it just needs to be executed (I wrote 'persecuted'! XD) well. It's like reading a fic where Hermione becomes pregnant and suddenly abandons all of her ideals in order to be Super Mommy and she has nothing on her mind but baby stuff and whines if the other characters don't see its importance. It...doesn't usually work that way. True, a baby can take a lot of your time and, yeah, sure, I've found that you can go out to buy yourself a pair of trousers and come home with bags filled with baby clothes and toys and no trousers, but...you're still a person. You still have your hopes and dreams and goals. If ( ... )

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wolfy_writing March 15 2009, 22:36:55 UTC
Aw, cute!

And yeah, quality matters. It's pretty crap when a guy loses all of his personality traits to become a Pregnant Woman Stereotype the moment he gets knocked up. The thing is, like you said, it's pretty crappy when a woman loses all of her personality traits to become a Pregnant Woman Stereotype. Getting overly-focused on "You're turning men into women!" just makes it look more acceptable to warp female characters like that. Which leads to ever more "I only want to read about men, because all of the female characters I've found suck." Bleh.

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akashathekitty March 15 2009, 22:54:37 UTC
I absolutely some day want to write a fic where a woman (or, now, maybe a man, who knows? XD) gets pregnant and HATES it! Because my experience was that there was a brief interlude between fifth and seventh month where I was mostly just sore, but the rest of the time I felt like absolute crap, and I had no concept of the baby, so even when they put him in my arms, he mostly felt foreign. I had to get used to him.

Hating being pregnant and hating getting up at night to feed the bratling or being ready to cry yourself when your baby cried all day non-stop is not a sign of post partum depression or being a bad parent, it's a sign of parenting being tough--especially the first time. Someone told me the other day that "motherhood sucks, but you aren't supposed to admit it" and sometimes that seems true. XD ( ... )

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spartanwerewolf March 16 2009, 21:50:22 UTC
Commenting solely to say that I've written miserable pregnancies, parents not knowing WTF to do with the kid, parents having problems due to the pregnancy and even a couple where they didn't keep the kid, either before or after the pregnancy. All of them mpreg.

I don't think I've ever written a pleasant, nice mpreg or kid fic. They're all horrible expriences that get a bit better sometimes, but mostly suck.

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kazaera March 15 2009, 22:57:02 UTC
Maan, I had this really awesome Mad Scientist woman Sim who lived on her own and I really, really wanted to get her pregnant with alien babies. No faaaiiir the women want to have little green kiddies tooooo. ;_; Then I wanted to get her pregnant, period, which would necessitate having her fall in love with someone, so I had her meet loads of single male Sims and talk with them loads and get to the highest possible interpersonal relationship score thing and she didn't fall in love with *any* of them. It would figure that I would get an asexual aromantic Sim.

...um. What were we talking about again?

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akashathekitty March 15 2009, 23:03:33 UTC
This is why we have MODS! My female sims can totally get pregnant from abductions :D And, also, I have a mod called Autonomous Casual Romance where some sims are more likely to, ahm, "get it on" and others are less likely. A Romance sim becomes pretty slutty and may or may not have sex with people on their own. Especially when you're not controlling them. ;)

But, hey, sims can adopt too! ;) (I don't do it much, though, I LOVE the whole mixing genes thing ♥)

Sims is my guilty pleasure. X_X

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kazaera March 15 2009, 23:08:19 UTC
Aw man, this makes me wish I'd played it more! And not had a "friend" of mine forget to give me back the CDs when I moved out. :( Oh well. That mod sounds awesome, though... although tbh I pretty much only ever played Knowledge or maaaybe Family sims. Quite, um, stereotypes but I *get* Knowledge Sims and can imagine Family whereas Romance just run straight up against fundmantal incomprehension. >>

With you on the mixing genes thing. I was so enamoured with it that I had my first Sims family have *way* too many kids. Whoops. (To be fair, I wasn't expecting twins. Also, I'd wanted a girl. :( )

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akashathekitty March 15 2009, 23:12:59 UTC
Well, ACR requires at least one expansion afair. Anyhoo, I'd lend you my games, but I don't think you can easily come by my house. ;)

I prefer Knowledge, Fortune and Family sims myself. Romance sims are rather stupid most of the times imo, and the later "Pleasure" sims were just all about jumping on couches, juggling bottles, playing games and going on dates. It's a bit much. But, like, with a family sim I am always tempted to keep making them have babies, because... so, so cute. And, like, sometimes you do want e.g. a girl and then you have a single mother with five boys who loses her job and lives in a big house with no furniture and--

Damn, now I want to play it.

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