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Nov 10, 2005 15:24

"To be great is to be misunderstood ( Read more... )

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jeff_ayan November 10 2005, 22:39:07 UTC
I think one can achieve love and greatness by balancing the powers of them. Lets use two of my best friends as amazing examples; Eric and Josh. Both truly believe they are in love and have found 'true love,' so as a constant, we'll believe they really are. Josh, is the representation of most people in love (my parents included) When in love, people tend to shut out all of the nonessential people, and to them, the nonessential people are everyone. To everyone else, the person in love is less of a person, but to themselves, they are perfect and happy. This is then the reason that I say nothing to Josh, for he is happy and so there is no problem, but there is no greatness.

Eric, on the other hand, has found the perfect balance of love and greatness. Since then that he has found this balance, he is indeed more great. True love does not necessarily mean medicrity, but yet another test of your human capabilities. Now that you've found love, will you pass the second, hidden test?

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magnoliajane November 11 2005, 05:43:59 UTC
To everyone else, the person in love is less of a person
I disagree.

there is no greatness
who are you to judge?

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jeff_ayan November 11 2005, 19:36:25 UTC
I think you're a communist. So you're saying that our dear friend Albert Einstein was no greater a man than our friend Stosh Zuhlke? Greatness does not exist? Everyone is equal? No matter what you read or believe or think, we are NOT created equal. We do not equal out in any way. Someones lack of manners can't be made up for with their immense knowledge of underwater plant life. Equality does not exist and will not exist because humans crave individuality and creativity.

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jeff_ayan November 11 2005, 21:16:35 UTC
uhh...she was quoting you. what a bizarre little tangent this is.
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magnoliajane November 12 2005, 03:22:28 UTC
i'm not making any kind of a statement that would relate to einstein or stosh. i think you misunderstood me.

what i will say is that someone's greatness depends on the standards by which they are being judged. Someones lack of manners can't be made up for with their immense knowledge of underwater plant life. Apparently you don't value knowledge of underwater plants, but perhaps someone else does. And to that person, the plant expert may be great due to their knowledge and their manners will not be so important. Greatness is subjective. It depends on who is judging.

And so with that in mind, who are you to judge?

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jeff_ayan November 12 2005, 15:45:24 UTC
Yes, correct, I did misunderstand you. Always misunderstandings. I suppose there is no real answer to 'Who are you to judge'

Good point made.

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yea jeff this is lauren jeff_ayan November 11 2005, 15:51:22 UTC
its a pretty crude move to use two of your friends as examples and use your own opinion to judge them on their love then turn around and hurt their feelings. no greatness, don't say one thing to my face and then turn around and trash us compared to our friends. Josh and I have nothing agaisn't eric or sarah and are happy that they are in love. "When in love, people tend to shut out all of the nonessential people, and to them, the nonessential people are everyone. To everyone else, the person in love is less of a person, but to themselves, they are perfect and happy."...who do we shut out jeff? who are you to judge? less of a person? i think you should have thought a little more about what you were saying and who you would affect before you wrote what you did.

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Re: yea jeff this is lauren jeff_ayan November 11 2005, 19:33:07 UTC
dont get so upset, you completely misunderstood me. I don't think you're less of a person, but more of a person on the inside because of it. But I do believe you guys shut out other people and I didn't say it to your face because its not something that I care to harass you with. Its not a big problem. I put it on here because I was pretty sure you didn't bother reading everyone's livejournal. I really didn't mean to upset you ( ... )

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Re: yea jeff this is lauren abendsonnen November 11 2005, 20:17:10 UTC
I guess you've decided that you can never be in the wrong. Congratulations.

I hope you find what you're looking for, and then I hope you find what really matters.

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Re: yea jeff this is lauren magnoliajane November 12 2005, 03:18:08 UTC
right on, heather

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Re: yea jeff this is lauren magnoliajane November 12 2005, 03:17:45 UTC
Don't ever be offended by something I write unless I write it specificly to you.

umm...that's a little silly. anytime you write something about someone they're going to read it and react to it. just because you didn't address it to lauren or josh doesn't mean that it can or should be ignored by them. they're just supposed to pretend they don't know what you wrote? come on jeff...

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Re: yea jeff this is lauren jeff_ayan November 12 2005, 06:25:25 UTC
once again, misinterpreted. I never said they were supposed to pretend I didn't write it, I said I didn't mean for it to be slandering them. I'm really getting sick of so many people getting offended so easily. If I'm going to slander you it'll be to your face. C'mon.

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Re: yea jeff this is lauren magnoliajane November 12 2005, 08:07:38 UTC
well i think that even if you don't necessarily mean something as libelous, it still can be.

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Re: yea jeff this is lauren jeff_ayan November 12 2005, 15:42:33 UTC
Of course anything can be interpreted as something its not online. A huge percentage of communication is nonverbal, this is why we have so many misunderstandings online.

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Re: yea jeff this is lauren abendsonnen November 12 2005, 16:11:09 UTC
"I'm really getting sick of so many people getting offended so easily."

Maybe it's something you're doing, if this keeps happening to you.

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Re: yea jeff this is lauren jeff_ayan November 13 2005, 03:46:50 UTC
yes of course its something I'm doing, its something nobody else does: I speak my mind ruthlessly. Tact? Yes I know what it is and how to use it flawlessly, but usually the case is that I don't know when, or don't care to use it.

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