[POLL] Rule Changes

May 22, 2011 16:03

Please take this poll to determine rule changes for Game 2.

Description of rule change proposals )

alliances, poll, ff_classchange, ultima_arena

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arivess May 23 2011, 17:37:05 UTC
Er, new thread again with another point I have--

Okay, this bit will sound a little arrogant and selfish, but I think honestly is an important point:

Should someone's 5-points-10-minutes-voting opinion really take precedence over someone's 40-points-2-days-writing opinion? :\ To me, that seems a little selfish. To put it harshly, if you don't want to vote, then don't vote. You're losing a lot less than saying I can't write for something even if I want to, unless I want to jump through hoops for it.

The other thing I just thought of was -- despite the fact that quite a few people voted for restrictions, no one's really saying anything other than Eilia. So... what exactly do the rest of you guys want restrictions for? Fic? Graphics? Art? For the same reasons as her or for different reasons? To put it more rudely, do you really have an opinion or are you just voting it for a kinda "yeah, might be nice I guess" kind of thing ( ... )

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chacusha May 23 2011, 18:28:14 UTC
I haven't voted but from a neutral/mod point of view, I'm a fan of restrictions in general for the reason of fairness. I know people prefer the ability to choose a subject they like, so I would never have a comm where all challenges have game restrictions. But I come from an icontest background where a mix of open-ended and provided image contests is normal. I know fic =/= icons and game restrictions on fic hit harder than they do with icons, but the issue of fairness is the same with both ( ... )

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arivess May 23 2011, 18:36:18 UTC
I think from a voting viewpoint, splitting is more fair, and it's kind of the same with icons as fic, but I feel from a creating viewpoint, restrictions are very much different for fic than they are for icon or art. I've never played FF12. I can't write it no matter how many points you dangle in my face, so to speak. (...Well. I probably can. With lots of research. But it'd be crappy. All because I don't have money to buy a PS2.) But if you say, "make an icon with Vaan" or "draw a picture of Penelo", I can do that easily.

I like the idea of submitting 2-3 entries of whatever you want and splitting it into categories, I think. I'd be in favour of parameters for voting, but not for writing, since I think most of the reason people want restrictions is for the sake of the voting process.

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sunflower_mynah May 23 2011, 18:39:40 UTC
Seconding this. Writing is inherently restricted - you can't write what you don't know, unless you do tons of time-consuming research, so penalizing writing further would be counter-productive.

But categories for voting should solve the issue?

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sunflower_mynah May 23 2011, 19:03:47 UTC
Also, um, provided image contests would be a fairer restriction than game restrictions on fic, IMO, because everyone's working with the same image. I'd say a provided image is closer to a general fic prompt (like the ones for drabbles) in terms of restrictions?

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chacusha May 23 2011, 19:35:41 UTC
Well provided image contests are pretty much the peak in terms of restrictiveness and fairness and that level of fairness can't really be achieved in a fic challenge without also restricting game and character... I don't think provided image is analogous to fic prompts... To me the equivalent of a fic prompts is an icontest where I say "the prompt is Flowers". Someone might icon Aeris because she's a flowergirl. Another person might stick a flower image on an image of Rydia. A third might icon a mandragora or something.

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thedrowned May 23 2011, 19:25:51 UTC
Sure, we can ask. Purporting query might be kind of unproductive, though, if you put them on the spot. I know I wouldn't know what I wanted to write for until I got the prompt or idea. But I doubt it could hurt to ask.

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arivess May 23 2011, 19:32:21 UTC
Same, honestly. Like the hunger drabble I wrote for FF13... FF13 would not be on the list of games I feel I can write for, for example.

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