fannish5, Moiety, and Supernatural
The 
fannish5 for this week is "Name your 5 favourite fictional marriages". I actually found this fairly difficult, both because my memory is a bit iffy and, as it turns out, I don't consume a great deal of media about/containing marriages. Hmm. Seriously, I just browsed through my film and book collections and . . . not so much in the way of marriages. Would that this were my five favourite couple thingies :-P Let's see what I can come up with.
The list:
1. Mary/Ponter (+ their other spouses, and also Adikor's wife etc. but not Bandra's husband, obviously), The Neanderthal Parallax.
2. Amy/Rory, which is predictable but they are cute and adorable, Doctor Who.
3. Jadzia/Worf, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.
4. Eddie/Marion, (I don't actually remember if it's implied that they'll get married, or not. I'm pretending it is), A Widow for One Year.
5. Anna/Stan, Hiccups.
Of course, for most of these couples we don't see (or haven't, yet) much of their actual marriage. Mostly I'm saying that I 'ship these guys, and it just so happens that canon does, too. The canon for 1 and 4 even ENDS before the couples are technically married XD
On a related topic, has everyone seen
melannen's post on polyamory in fiction, Love & Marriage? I have read almost no Le Guin, but I'm now in love with these sedoretu things she came up with. I want every fandom to have a moiety AU, now! Not even necessarily ones that deal with a foursome making a sedoretu (although those are awesome, check out this one for Buffy), because I'm also interested in how adding moiety as a thing can change little details. For example, in a universe with moiety, are gendered spaces like dorms and bathrooms split four ways, instead of two? So, like, in Harry Potter would a writer have to decide between having Harry and Ron share a dorm and their being opposite moieties?
I'd really like to see how character interactions change when you add moiety into the social situation, too. If you take two characters that are the same gender in canon and make them seperate moieties, how would that change the way they treat each other? Hmm? Even if they're not a romantic prospect, would the fact that society views them as potential partners effect their behaviour? I'm betting yes, of course, but I'd like to see it go down in some of my fandoms (especially where the two characters aren't romantically or sexually interested in each other). What about people of the same moiety? How would male/female interaction change when it's between two people of the same moiety? What kind of impact would moiety have on it?
Going back to gendered spaces, might they still be split only two ways, but by moiety instead of gender? So, maybe you'd have Hermione as Harry's dorm mate instead of Ron. That would have the potential to totally change the dynamics in the books. I mean beyond the Ron/Harry-as-potentially-sexual thing, of course :-P
Oddly enough, after reading
melannen's post, I couldn't come up with any sedoretus in my fandoms. Mostly I came up with bits and pieces of sedoretus, if anything. Like, okay. Supernatural. There's no obvious foursome in there anyway (and Wincest - which isn't my thing even in normal situations - would be double wrong, so there goes one of the biggest 'ships on the show) but I'm sitting here not even trying to make one (although Sam/Jess/Brady were totally a partial sedoretu pre-canon, amrite?). Instead, my moiety!canon for Supernatural is that John and Mary were a scandalously monogamous Morning couple, owing to how the angels were messing with them. They had to try soooo hard to get John and Mary together that, whoops, their feelings are too strong to allow for other (naturally-developed) relationships.
Also, if moiety were real, Supernatural fans would totally 'ship Cas/Sam/Dean(/optional and various fourths). Because: Sam and Dean are all emotionally co-dependant and in moiety!verse that means they would belong with the same people, rather than be 'shipped incestuously. Fandom would love it because Cas is either male, genderqueer, or nongendered, depending on how you interpret angels in canon - whichever way you go, that is a queer sedoretu in the making, even without considering that Sam and Dean are replacing what is normally a male&female pair. Plus, you KNOW that, if moiety were real, there would be some serious meta on how/whether moiety works with angels. MAYBE THEY DON'T HAVE MOIETY. Maybe they have no moiety but Jimmy has the same moiety as Sam and Dean. You'd get some interesting fic out of that.
LOL, now that I think about it, ALL major 'ships in Supernatural would be Sam/Dean/[x]/[y]. And none of them would be canon because the network would never have same sex siblings in the same sedoretu.
On the plus side, I imagine there'd be more women on the show in general. Probably in fiction in general. I mean, imagine every story that has a Boy Meets Girl plot - they'd probably need one more Girl, yeah? And since a lot of fiction already has more male than female characters, you'd figure that the other Boy in many sedoretus would be one that already exists, so most of the added characters would be female. Hence better gender quality (numerically) in fiction!
. . . Yeah, I'm imagining how the real world would work with moiety. Maybe I'll just post this now, before I go any further :-P
fannish5 for this week is "Name your 5 favourite fictional marriages". I actually found this fairly difficult, both because my memory is a bit iffy and, as it turns out, I don't consume a great deal of media about/containing marriages. Hmm. Seriously, I just browsed through my film and book collections and . . . not so much in the way of marriages. Would that this were my five favourite couple thingies :-P Let's see what I can come up with.
The list:
1. Mary/Ponter (+ their other spouses, and also Adikor's wife etc. but not Bandra's husband, obviously), The Neanderthal Parallax.
2. Amy/Rory, which is predictable but they are cute and adorable, Doctor Who.
3. Jadzia/Worf, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.
4. Eddie/Marion, (I don't actually remember if it's implied that they'll get married, or not. I'm pretending it is), A Widow for One Year.
5. Anna/Stan, Hiccups.
Of course, for most of these couples we don't see (or haven't, yet) much of their actual marriage. Mostly I'm saying that I 'ship these guys, and it just so happens that canon does, too. The canon for 1 and 4 even ENDS before the couples are technically married XD
On a related topic, has everyone seen
melannen's post on polyamory in fiction, Love & Marriage? I have read almost no Le Guin, but I'm now in love with these sedoretu things she came up with. I want every fandom to have a moiety AU, now! Not even necessarily ones that deal with a foursome making a sedoretu (although those are awesome, check out this one for Buffy), because I'm also interested in how adding moiety as a thing can change little details. For example, in a universe with moiety, are gendered spaces like dorms and bathrooms split four ways, instead of two? So, like, in Harry Potter would a writer have to decide between having Harry and Ron share a dorm and their being opposite moieties?
I'd really like to see how character interactions change when you add moiety into the social situation, too. If you take two characters that are the same gender in canon and make them seperate moieties, how would that change the way they treat each other? Hmm? Even if they're not a romantic prospect, would the fact that society views them as potential partners effect their behaviour? I'm betting yes, of course, but I'd like to see it go down in some of my fandoms (especially where the two characters aren't romantically or sexually interested in each other). What about people of the same moiety? How would male/female interaction change when it's between two people of the same moiety? What kind of impact would moiety have on it?
Going back to gendered spaces, might they still be split only two ways, but by moiety instead of gender? So, maybe you'd have Hermione as Harry's dorm mate instead of Ron. That would have the potential to totally change the dynamics in the books. I mean beyond the Ron/Harry-as-potentially-sexual thing, of course :-P
Oddly enough, after reading
melannen's post, I couldn't come up with any sedoretus in my fandoms. Mostly I came up with bits and pieces of sedoretus, if anything. Like, okay. Supernatural. There's no obvious foursome in there anyway (and Wincest - which isn't my thing even in normal situations - would be double wrong, so there goes one of the biggest 'ships on the show) but I'm sitting here not even trying to make one (although Sam/Jess/Brady were totally a partial sedoretu pre-canon, amrite?). Instead, my moiety!canon for Supernatural is that John and Mary were a scandalously monogamous Morning couple, owing to how the angels were messing with them. They had to try soooo hard to get John and Mary together that, whoops, their feelings are too strong to allow for other (naturally-developed) relationships.
Also, if moiety were real, Supernatural fans would totally 'ship Cas/Sam/Dean(/optional and various fourths). Because: Sam and Dean are all emotionally co-dependant and in moiety!verse that means they would belong with the same people, rather than be 'shipped incestuously. Fandom would love it because Cas is either male, genderqueer, or nongendered, depending on how you interpret angels in canon - whichever way you go, that is a queer sedoretu in the making, even without considering that Sam and Dean are replacing what is normally a male&female pair. Plus, you KNOW that, if moiety were real, there would be some serious meta on how/whether moiety works with angels. MAYBE THEY DON'T HAVE MOIETY. Maybe they have no moiety but Jimmy has the same moiety as Sam and Dean. You'd get some interesting fic out of that.
LOL, now that I think about it, ALL major 'ships in Supernatural would be Sam/Dean/[x]/[y]. And none of them would be canon because the network would never have same sex siblings in the same sedoretu.
On the plus side, I imagine there'd be more women on the show in general. Probably in fiction in general. I mean, imagine every story that has a Boy Meets Girl plot - they'd probably need one more Girl, yeah? And since a lot of fiction already has more male than female characters, you'd figure that the other Boy in many sedoretus would be one that already exists, so most of the added characters would be female. Hence better gender quality (numerically) in fiction!
. . . Yeah, I'm imagining how the real world would work with moiety. Maybe I'll just post this now, before I go any further :-P