Wimbledon vs Roger Federer

[fedal_fangirl]

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As usual, Dootsiez has put virtual pen to paper and absolutley nailed my feelings on Roger/Wimbley. Find it here.

I admit that I didn't want Roger to win Wimbledon. But I did want another epic Rafa/Roger final, with Rafa winning. So, Vamos Rafa!

Comments

[pilaposer]

As you can probably guess, I don't entirely agree with Dootsiez. Although I agree that the Rafa hating Fed fans need to shut up and stop making subtle (Fed's *never* taken a med time out, with the unsaid part being that Rafa exploits MTOs to his advantage) and not-so-subtle (Rafa complains about injuries *all* the time) digs at Rafa all over the internet.

My memory is faulty at times, but I recall these same fans practically dancing on Rafa's grave and calling him a coward and a faker for not defending his title at Wimbledon in 2009 when he was injured. I also remember getting into a rather testy exchange on the NY Times tennis blog with a Federnut about her nasty comment that it's the requirement of *any* job to show up fit for work--meaning that Rafa should just hang up his raquet because of his nagging injuries. As if being an elite athlete is comparable to having an office job. These same people have no problem conjuring up sympathy for Federer, who also has nagging injuries (at least when he loses, that is). Federnuts often bring up Roger's nagging illnesses and injuries as one of their many illogical arguments to rationalize Roger's losses to Rafa and others. They can never admit that Roger just done got beat by the better player on the day.

Roger has been been, shall we say, less than gracious in post-loss pressers before. I've read several stories about Roger's presser yesterday and today, and it seems that most fans and reporters believe that yesterday was the first time Roger has been surly in a presser. I do believe that Roger is a genuinely nice guy, but he has also built up an image of being a refined gentleman that many of his fans have bought hook, line, and sinker, no matter what evidence there is to the contrary. Roger seems to live up to the image most of the time, but it is still an image, not reality. And sometimes, such as yesterday, he's let the facade down and allowed his real, human, not-so-nice side come out.

I am sorry that Roger lost, but I cannot pretend that Roger is always a perfect gentleman.

[mtmed9273]

many players.nadal. excuse for injury. It is always possible.

But, the Roger's excuse is impossible.
Roger is human. He also has the slump.

When Roger is defeated. player's eulogy always. Influence of the Roger's sickness and injury. It doesn't change the evaluation.

Therefore, Roger's fan protects him. It is natural feelings of the fan.

Roger's sickness and injury. MONO. And, disease of lungs.

suffers an illness. He has obviously become weak play. The decrease continues.

And, the chronic injury. Back. Waist. In addition, the foot is injury from the tournament of Halle. He was defeated at Lleyton. But，he was laughing.

foot was injured in Halle. It is fact

[fedal_fangirl]

This is totally off topic, and PLEASE PLEASE I hope you don't take offense... but I find your English to be totally adorable. What is your native language? I always envy anyone who has the ability to speak other languages. XD

[mtmed9273]

I am not good at English.

I'm sorry ^^;

[mtmed9273]

MTO of Rafa should have the doubt. He buys time always uselessly. A cheap Putting and pull.
vomits saliva. many players are made to wait. Always exaggerated overpowering

Roger also. part of not good.
But, I heard it many times.tired

All players have it. Part of not good

Roger's fan, it is understood.
many fans of the player are understood.

The criticism to Roger is always exaggerated.
He has been speaking since the time of Halle. Back. Waist. injury of foot

Nevertheless,

It like hears it heard for the first time. It is really a surprise.

Not seriously treated, no matter there is very a cause of the slump.

The same as it from the time of the Roger heyday.

[elbow3]

I'll try to settle down the nerves here. After all, we're all fans of the pair of them, no ?
Maybe, we could just listen to what Rafa has to say about Roger in his PC during wimbledon 2010 :

"To have a player as complete as Roger always in front of you, is a stimulus to keep on improving day after day,"
says Rafa. "We both give it all on the court, but once you are off the court it is all over. It is a game, and
that is all. There are things in life that are more important. We are both normal people and I have always got on
brilliantly with Roger."

For anyone of you who would have doubts about how well those two get along, the words of Rafa above, proves you wrong :)

[rogandraf]

I wish that Roger and Rafa's fans could get along as well as the two of them. I'm not talking about people here, but people on the tennis message boards, RF.com (which I think Roger needs to scrap and just start over with a no bashing rule), newspaper comment sectinos, etc.

[rogandraf]

sections, not sectinos! LOL!

[rogandraf]

I hope you are not offended. I was talking about the mean Federer fans, not the nice ones. :) I don't believe that Roger lies about his injuries, but certain of his fans *always* bring up illnesses and injuries of Roger whenever he loses. They can never admit that Rafa (or anyone else, for that matter) beat a fully healthy Roger. To those people--who are anti-Rafa to a sick degree, IMO--none of Rafa's wins over Roger count for some reason or another, whether there is actual proof or not.

I don't want to write a really long indictment of the nutso fans, but just a few of their irrational and contradictory opinions follow:

"Roger's records speak for themselves." yet they post Roger's records all over the internet, in comments on Rafa YouTube videos, etc. If the records speak for themselves, there is no need to post them all over the internet.

"Roger lost Wimbledon 2008 because of the darkness." Yet both Roger and Rafa played in the same darkness. Unless Rafa has the vision of a cat, I don't see how the darkness adversely affected Roger more than it did Rafa.

"Roger has had an injury-free career" yet the same people will say "Roger's 2008 slump was due to mono and a bad back." Huh? Not doubting that Roger had those problems, but no fan could possibly know when the mono began, when its effects ended, and to what extent his back injury affected Roger's play. And they can't say that Roger has had an injury-free career and then in the next breath bring up his injuries to account for his slumps and his losses to Rafa.

"Roger is *always* a perfect gentleman. He *never* disses other players or is a bad sport." Yet one can easily find instances where Roger was not a good sport and not a perfect gentleman. One would have to be living in a fantasy world to believe that Roger is always a perfect gentleman. Roger's own official website is hardly what one would expect from a perfect gentleman and a good sport.

I don't have a problem with people supporting Roger, and it is natural for fans to be upset when he loses. They don't have to make excuses and attack Roger's rivals, however.

I like Roger, despite what it sounds like, and I like you, so I hope we can still be internet friends. :)

[mtmed9273]

hello. not offended^^

I am Roger's fan from 2004.
By the way, His back and waist are chronic injured since 2004. In 2005, the ankle injured, too. In the memory

However, after the sickness, It has really become weak. The age, too.

It is continuation of the slump now. The injury, too.
It is painful time for Roger's fan.

And, Roger's Do. or doesn't do. It is always treated in the exaggeration.

But, Other players. The same thing. Do, or doesn't do.
Not matter it. always, it is disgusted. haha

[rogandraf]

I'm glad that you are not offended. I know that you are Roger's fan. I am too. Sometimes I want to knock some sense into him, but I am still his fan. :)

I do get a little mouthy (or fingertippy) and opinionated at times, as poor Fedal Fangirl knows. :)

[fedal_fangirl]

Rafa and Roger are such a great contrast. I think that Rafa is much more expressive of his emotions and he seems very genuine in his pressers. Whether he wins or loses, you always know how he feels about it. And he always gives credit to his opponent.

Roger, on the other hand, is not so gracious at losing. He makes it hard to be a Fed fan sometimes. XD

[rogandraf]

Agreed. :)

[mtmed9273]

MTO of Rafa, should have the doubt. He buys time always uselessly. A cheap Putting and pull.
vomits saliva. Always exaggerated overpowering

Roger also. part of not good.
But, I heard it many times.tired

All players have it. Part of not good
Roger's fan, it is understood.
many fans of the player are understood.

The criticism to Roger is always exaggerated.
He has been speaking since the time of Halle. Back. Waist. injury of foot

Nevertheless,

It like hears it heard for the first time. It is really a surprise.

never seriously treated, no matter there is very a cause of the slump.

The same as it from the time of the Roger heyday.