I need a better facepalm icon....
Okay, here's what happened with the supposed facebook drama I caused. Here's the backstory and the cast of characters: Jessica is the girl I'm talking to. I've never actually met her face to face yet, but we've talked on FB a handful of times. She is the fiance of one of my best friends from high school named Brennan. Then James is some relative of Jessica's, her father I think. I would have posted a cap of this from FB itself...but Jessica removed me from her friends list after this. :-/
This was Jessica's status:
Dear President Obama, If you are worried about the nation being offended by national day of prayer why did we have a Muslim day of prayer? Do you now care that you offended other religious groups. If your going to stop prayer at the white house do it for all groups not just the Christians.
This was my reply (which is gonna as much from memory as I can, my replies are gone):
One, he didn't cancel National Prayer Day, only the ceremony that Dubya initiated during his term (which was an insult to the non-Christians of the country). Two, there is no such thing as an Islamic Prayer Day. (Then I linked her to the Snopes entry)
Also, Obama is still recognizing National Prayer Day even after the members of the Supreme Court (six of whom were appointed by Republican presidents) deemed it unconstitutional. (And I linked her to this article)
Then she replied with:
I stand corrected but he did recognize so members of the Islamic community and let them have a day of prayer on the white house lawn Sept. 25 (and she linked me to a snopes article that I can't find atm)
The fact of the matter is if we keep writing God out of everything we do our great nation built by god's rules will corrupt itself and fall apart
Then I replied:
But in order for our country to ever get passed the intense fear of the entire Muslim community, not just the extremists that are a part if every religion (even Christianity)...we have to learn about their ways. It's a step forward to make peace. We've been so terrified of the normal people of the Muslim faith that live among us, that it causes more tension and anger. Peace comes with understanding.
Then, for some reason, her relative chimes in:
I learned about their ways on 9-11-2001 when I watched over 3,000 innocent people die and then afterwards watched a bunch of Muslims celebrating it!
Gotta love the south. :-/
Then, then, then! A couple hours later, her fiance -- one of my besties -- messages me on FB:
Brennan:
What you did, posting about Jessica's topic, was fine. Arguing openly and making the insults personal, however, is not. I advise that you not exhibit this sort of behavior in the future, especially when it's against my girlfriend of 4 years and Fiance. I know you have differing views, which you are entitled to. An open argument on somebody's wall never produces anything positive though.
Please keep this in mind and choose your words wisely next time. Thanks.
Um...what? o.O?
So I replied:
Brennan, I truly apologize if I offended you and/or Jessica. I never meant to, but I don't think I said anything insulting...intentionally at least. I didn't see it as an argument, but a discussion, seeing as it was posted on public domain where people could comment. But if I've overstepped my bounds, I'm sorry. I would never intentionally insult or go after someone I consider a friend (which I do, even though I've never met Jessica), especially a SO of a friend. I'm not like that. Please send my apologies to Jessica. I hope to meet her one day as well as see you again
Claire
Then he replied with:
I'll pass the apologies on to Jessica. I appreciate your sincerity, and I believe you when you say you weren't trying to offend her. I also understand that the information that she originally posted wasn't 100% accurate, and that's what prompted your initial post. That's completely fine. I do stand behind my Fiance, though.
Anyway, I'm sorry this happened, as I'm sure you never intended it to get out of control like it did. Hopefully I'll see you around Jacksonville this year. By the way, my offer after you finish orientation still stands.
Take care,
-Brennan
Okay, guys...Was there any conceivable way what I said could possibly be construed as being personally insulting? Jessica removed me from her friends list, and I learned that after I searched for her to message her my apologies. So I'm debating whether or not to try to friend her back with a message or wait like 24 hours for things to cool.
Holy shit, I cause drama when I don't mean to. Sigh.
This was Jessica's status:
Dear President Obama, If you are worried about the nation being offended by national day of prayer why did we have a Muslim day of prayer? Do you now care that you offended other religious groups. If your going to stop prayer at the white house do it for all groups not just the Christians.
This was my reply (which is gonna as much from memory as I can, my replies are gone):
One, he didn't cancel National Prayer Day, only the ceremony that Dubya initiated during his term (which was an insult to the non-Christians of the country). Two, there is no such thing as an Islamic Prayer Day. (Then I linked her to the Snopes entry)
Also, Obama is still recognizing National Prayer Day even after the members of the Supreme Court (six of whom were appointed by Republican presidents) deemed it unconstitutional. (And I linked her to this article)
Then she replied with:
I stand corrected but he did recognize so members of the Islamic community and let them have a day of prayer on the white house lawn Sept. 25 (and she linked me to a snopes article that I can't find atm)
The fact of the matter is if we keep writing God out of everything we do our great nation built by god's rules will corrupt itself and fall apart
Then I replied:
But in order for our country to ever get passed the intense fear of the entire Muslim community, not just the extremists that are a part if every religion (even Christianity)...we have to learn about their ways. It's a step forward to make peace. We've been so terrified of the normal people of the Muslim faith that live among us, that it causes more tension and anger. Peace comes with understanding.
Then, for some reason, her relative chimes in:
I learned about their ways on 9-11-2001 when I watched over 3,000 innocent people die and then afterwards watched a bunch of Muslims celebrating it!
Gotta love the south. :-/
Then, then, then! A couple hours later, her fiance -- one of my besties -- messages me on FB:
Brennan:
What you did, posting about Jessica's topic, was fine. Arguing openly and making the insults personal, however, is not. I advise that you not exhibit this sort of behavior in the future, especially when it's against my girlfriend of 4 years and Fiance. I know you have differing views, which you are entitled to. An open argument on somebody's wall never produces anything positive though.
Please keep this in mind and choose your words wisely next time. Thanks.
Um...what? o.O?
So I replied:
Brennan, I truly apologize if I offended you and/or Jessica. I never meant to, but I don't think I said anything insulting...intentionally at least. I didn't see it as an argument, but a discussion, seeing as it was posted on public domain where people could comment. But if I've overstepped my bounds, I'm sorry. I would never intentionally insult or go after someone I consider a friend (which I do, even though I've never met Jessica), especially a SO of a friend. I'm not like that. Please send my apologies to Jessica. I hope to meet her one day as well as see you again
Claire
Then he replied with:
I'll pass the apologies on to Jessica. I appreciate your sincerity, and I believe you when you say you weren't trying to offend her. I also understand that the information that she originally posted wasn't 100% accurate, and that's what prompted your initial post. That's completely fine. I do stand behind my Fiance, though.
Anyway, I'm sorry this happened, as I'm sure you never intended it to get out of control like it did. Hopefully I'll see you around Jacksonville this year. By the way, my offer after you finish orientation still stands.
Take care,
-Brennan
Okay, guys...Was there any conceivable way what I said could possibly be construed as being personally insulting? Jessica removed me from her friends list, and I learned that after I searched for her to message her my apologies. So I'm debating whether or not to try to friend her back with a message or wait like 24 hours for things to cool.
Holy shit, I cause drama when I don't mean to. Sigh.