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Nov 11, 2003 12:21



(05:16:51)  (@j0sh^b33r) what % of people that you know who like idm don't also make idm, approximately? just curious
(05:17:31)  (@glamour) hrm
(05:17:46)  (@glamour) very few
(05:17:53)  (@glamour) when I think about it
(05:18:03)  (@j0sh^b33r) does that seem odd to you?
(05:18:10)  (@glamour) not really I geuss
(05:18:28)  (@glamour) I am one of them
(05:18:37)  (@j0sh^b33r) think it's kinda like indie rock? where part of the scene is being part of the scene?
(05:18:38)  (@glamour) and I got a friend in NYC who is the same
(05:18:42)  (@glamour) and thats all I can think of atm
(05:19:11)  (@j0sh^b33r) im feeling very analytical lately, especially when it comes to music-speciffic niche cliques
(05:19:30)  (@j0sh^b33r) i want to find my place in the world and...i'm not 100% sure i fit in here
(05:19:42)  (@j0sh^b33r) which i sort of think is the biggest blessing i could have
(05:20:03)  (@glamour) oh man
(05:20:11)  (@glamour) you're my long lost brother I think
(05:20:15)  (@j0sh^b33r) :)
(05:20:23)  (@j0sh^b33r) could be
(05:20:24)  (@glamour) I'm in the same boat
(05:20:49)  (@glamour) I use to want to release music and be all crazy fresh and experimental and blah blah
(05:20:54)  (@glamour) now I have no interest
(05:21:04)  (@j0sh^b33r) why do you thinkt hat is?
(05:21:16)  (@glamour) I grew older
(05:21:20)  (@glamour) my interests changed
(05:21:31)  (@j0sh^b33r) what are your intersts now?
(05:21:44)  (@glamour) moving out of home, and making my parents proud :)
(05:21:48)  (@j0sh^b33r) if i get to inquisitive, stop me
(05:21:54)  (@glamour) no no, go nuts
(05:22:05)  (@j0sh^b33r) but thsese little interviews are part of my self-discovery
(05:22:15)  (@j0sh^b33r) perspective is so important to me
(05:22:42)  (@j0sh^b33r) change an angle by one degree and it's totally different than it was before, you know?
(05:23:12)  (@glamour) hrm sortof
(05:23:21)  (@j0sh^b33r) im also drunk so...
(05:23:25)  (@glamour) haha
(05:23:26)  (@j0sh^b33r) my analogies might suck
(05:23:51)  (@glamour) well im sick of living in the basement
(05:24:11)  (@glamour) and somehow I have convinced myself that through music I will get out of here
(05:24:22)  (@glamour) grass is always greener on the other side
(05:24:24)  (@glamour) or someshit
(05:24:37)  (@j0sh^b33r) so then...
(05:24:39)  (@glamour) I'm always missing out on the big picture I feel like
(05:24:46)  (@glamour) like everyone on earth is doing something
(05:24:47)  (@j0sh^b33r) let me ask you...
(05:24:49)  (@glamour) and I wasn't invited
(05:25:07)  (@j0sh^b33r) musically, do you feel that you are on par wiht your peers?
(05:25:35)  (@glamour) technically, I feel I have surpassed them.
(05:25:41)  (@j0sh^b33r) what you just said...i feel the smae way
(05:25:44)  (@glamour) musically tho...... most of them no
(05:25:54)  (@j0sh^b33r) why is that?
(05:26:09)  (@glamour) because I am a poor musician
(05:26:21)  (@glamour) and I listen to too much good music
(05:26:29)  (@glamour) so I am overly critical maybe
(05:26:37)  (@j0sh^b33r) we are all overly critical
(05:26:44)  (@j0sh^b33r) if we fail to be that way, we slip
(05:26:54)  (@j0sh^b33r) competition is a big part of this game
(05:27:03)  (@j0sh^b33r) and not in a bad way
(05:27:09)  (@j0sh^b33r) you people drive me
(05:27:14)  (@glamour) yep
(05:27:15)  (@j0sh^b33r) you make me want to be better than i am
(05:27:39)  (@glamour) I'm actually at a point that I'm quite content with my producing
(05:27:51)  (@glamour) but..
(05:27:54)  (@glamour) lots of problems
(05:27:58)  (@glamour) liek I can't make any melodys
(05:28:04)  (@glamour) no matter what it just sounds like shit
(05:28:09)  (@glamour) when I was younger I would just do anything
(05:28:13)  (@glamour) and be like woo hoo
(05:28:16)  (@j0sh^b33r) do you feel that you are lazy whith your music?
(05:28:21)  (@glamour) yeah
(05:28:27)  (@j0sh^b33r) why?
(05:28:29)  (@glamour) in some senses
(05:28:36)  (@j0sh^b33r) explain, pleas
(05:28:36)  (@j0sh^b33r) e
(05:28:40)  (@glamour) because I don't push myself too hard
(05:28:54)  (@glamour) as far as mixing and producing goes tho, nothing is overlooked.
(05:29:11)  (@glamour) but I don't have the drive
(05:29:21)  (@glamour) to do anything
(05:29:26)  (@glamour) I'm too busy being a suck ass :)
(05:29:34)  (@j0sh^b33r) this is a shitty question, but if you are aware of where you are lacking, why aren't you pushing harder to perform better in the areas that you think you could do better?
(05:29:49)  (@glamour) shitty question ? more liek a perfect question..
(05:29:54)  (@j0sh^b33r) :)
(05:29:55)  (@glamour) I tell myself this
(05:29:56)  (@glamour) all the time
(05:30:04)  (@glamour) I dunno man, I am more then one person
(05:30:27)  (@glamour) there is someone else in me asking why the fuck I am askingmyself why the fuck I am still doing the same thing all these years and why I don't change
(05:30:40)  (@glamour) and then I ask myself why I keep on asking myself these same questions
(05:30:43)  (@glamour) alwehtakjwwaetwetjnkwae
(05:31:05)  (@glamour) maybe I smoke too much pot
(05:31:18)  (@glamour) and live too easily with my parents
(05:31:37)  (@glamour) this is a shitty question, but if you are aware of where you are lacking, why aren't you pushing harder to perform better in the areas that you think you could do better?
(05:31:38)  (@glamour) hehe
(05:31:44)  (@glamour) man, that is just too on point.
(05:31:53)  (@glamour) yet I won't
(05:31:54)  (@j0sh^b33r) how old are you?
(05:31:58)  (@glamour) 22
(05:32:02)  (@j0sh^b33r) me too
(05:32:11)  (@glamour) I think you could have asked me that when I was 18 and I would have still agreed its on point
(05:32:14)  (@j0sh^b33r) and i find myself in a very similar situation to yours
(05:32:22)  (@glamour) so what is it then
(05:32:27)  (@j0sh^b33r) - the parents bit
(05:32:32)  (@j0sh^b33r) i just moved out 6 weeks ago
(05:32:35)  (@glamour) oh
(05:32:40)  (@glamour) so how has that been ?
(05:32:44)  (@j0sh^b33r) rough
(05:32:55)  (@j0sh^b33r) im broke
(05:32:56)  (@j0sh^b33r) all the time
(05:33:00)  (@glamour) do you have a big feeling of independence tho ?
(05:33:12)  (@j0sh^b33r) only when im grocery shopping
(05:33:20)  (@j0sh^b33r) and i mean that very sincerely
(05:33:32)  (@glamour) hrm
(05:33:38)  (@j0sh^b33r) the bus too
(05:33:46)  (@j0sh^b33r) there's eomething about riding the bus that i enjoy
(05:34:09)  (@glamour) cool
(05:34:14)  (@j0sh^b33r) do you feel that you are like...
(05:34:39)  (@j0sh^b33r) like you could be the best thing in your genre since it's definition...if only you could fully apply yourself?
(05:34:47)  (@j0sh^b33r) be honest
(05:34:52)  (@j0sh^b33r) modesty has no place here
(05:35:01)  (@glamour) yes and no
(05:35:08)  (@j0sh^b33r) please explain
(05:35:17)  (@glamour) I coudl fully apply myself and I still couldn't write a banging ass 2 or 4 chord hook
(05:35:27)  (@glamour) but if I had the ability to make some tight guitar hook
(05:35:40)  (@glamour) I could produce a track that would pwn the genre and turn heads I believe yes.
(05:35:59)  (@glamour) i would like a sidekick
(05:36:06)  (@j0sh^b33r) i really dig where you are at.
(05:36:07)  (@glamour) someone more musically inclined
(05:36:28)  (@j0sh^b33r) i think that your place is the spot right before a revelation
(05:36:34)  (@glamour) i dig it in some senses, definitly not in others tho
(05:36:34)  (@j0sh^b33r) a breakthrough
(05:36:42)  (@glamour) I get frustrated when I can't create a mood that I would like
(05:36:44)  (@j0sh^b33r) waht is your real name?
(05:36:50)  (@glamour) Dan
(05:36:56)  (@j0sh^b33r) dan
(05:37:05)  (@j0sh^b33r) please keep trying.
(05:37:13)  (@j0sh^b33r) for me, and the rest of us who are just like you.
(05:37:27)  (@glamour) :))
(05:37:41)  (@glamour) its all in your head
(05:37:52)  (@glamour) somedays I'm really content with what I'm doing
(05:37:53)  (@j0sh^b33r) that applies to you as well, you k now.
(05:38:11)  (@glamour) and other days when the situation is the exact same, I won't feel anywhere near as good, I geuss im moody
(05:38:22)  (@glamour) what applies to me ?
(05:38:32)  (@j0sh^b33r) (@glamour) its all in your head
(05:38:59)  (@j0sh^b33r) when you hear other people's tracks, and compare them to your own, how does it generally make you feel?
(05:39:07)  (@glamour) good :DD
(05:39:15)  (@j0sh^b33r) :)
(05:39:20)  (@j0sh^b33r) why?
(05:39:22)  (@glamour) but
(05:39:43)  (@glamour) well good because I know my productions are superior to a lot
(05:39:45)  (@glamour) but...
(05:39:50)  (@glamour) when I hear say, a good rock tune
(05:39:58)  (@glamour) that makes me feel bad because that is somethign that I could never do
(05:40:07)  (@glamour) I love a lot of guitar rockish music
(05:40:09)  (@j0sh^b33r) why do you think that?
(05:40:16)  (@glamour) I dunno, but I do
(05:40:34)  (@j0sh^b33r) in a band type setting, what do you imagine your primary role to be?
(05:41:30)  (@glamour) geez I dunno
(05:41:34)  (@glamour) I can't play shit for instruments :S
(05:41:37)  (@j0sh^b33r) yes you do
(05:41:49)  (@glamour) well
(05:41:57)  (@glamour) I'd like to sing maybe play bass
(05:42:04)  (@j0sh^b33r) bass.
(05:42:05)  (@glamour) or record the band, and mix the track :)
(05:42:22)  (@j0sh^b33r) i'm wrapping this up but...
(05:42:25)  (@j0sh^b33r) why bass?
(05:42:35)  (@j0sh^b33r) not many people like the idea of bieng a bassist
(05:42:56)  (@glamour) cause its easier then guitar, and because it can be the underlying tone of the melody in a lot of cases...... playing it would give off a "powerful" feeling maybe
(05:43:06)  (@glamour) i really don't know
(05:43:08)  (@j0sh^b33r) good answer
(05:43:09)  (@glamour) but it seems interesting
(05:43:18)  (@j0sh^b33r) no, that i sa good reason
(05:43:29)  (@glamour) ok
(05:43:34)  (@glamour) you seem to have some blind faith in me
(05:43:36)  (@j0sh^b33r) imo, anyway
(05:43:38)  (@glamour) what did I do :)
(05:43:47)  (@j0sh^b33r) i have faith in everyone
(05:43:56)  (@j0sh^b33r) because everyone deserves if nothing more - faith
(05:44:17)  (@glamour) aww thats cool
(05:44:24)  (@j0sh^b33r) it's true
(05:44:38)  (@j0sh^b33r) everyone who got anywhere had someone behidn them who believed in them
(05:44:57)  (@glamour) true yeah
(05:45:05)  (@glamour) my parents taint me a bit
(05:45:08)  (@glamour) they have no idea what I do
(05:45:14)  (@glamour) and I don't bring home the bacon
(05:45:23)  (@glamour) well thye have an idea but.....
(05:45:32)  (@j0sh^b33r) they dont really understand
(05:45:32)  (@glamour) they think im some depressed basement dweelling loser I think
(05:45:38)  (@glamour) yeah, they don't
(05:45:41)  (@j0sh^b33r) mine eithr
(05:45:43)  (@j0sh^b33r) my mom says
(05:46:08)  (@j0sh^b33r) adam, why don't you write pop songs? you are -so- good at guitar, blahblah
(05:46:22)  (@glamour) and what do you say
(05:46:33)  (@j0sh^b33r) "thats not where i'm at"
(05:46:38)  (@glamour) ahh
(05:46:51)  (@glamour) maybe you are just what I need to make the most banging undeniably hot pop/hiphop track
(05:47:06)  (@j0sh^b33r) :)
(05:47:15)  (@j0sh^b33r) maybe we could work together sometime
(05:47:23)  (@j0sh^b33r) i have -really- enjoyed talking to you
(05:47:29)  (@glamour) I'd be up for it
(05:47:31)  (@glamour) :)
(05:47:35)  (@glamour) you know what I love......
(05:47:40)  (@j0sh^b33r) what's that?
(05:47:41)  (@glamour) like bendy guitar hooks
(05:47:48)  (@glamour) can't explain ity
(05:47:55)  (@glamour) but pitch bendy stuff
(05:48:48)  (@glamour) i really wish I could play some good guitar
(05:49:27)  (@j0sh^b33r) do you own one?
(05:49:31)  (@glamour) yes
(05:49:33)  (@glamour) I tuned it
(05:49:38)  (@glamour) was proud of myself for a bit
(05:49:44)  (@j0sh^b33r) what do you have?
(05:49:52)  (@glamour) but didn't stick withit to be worth a shit
(05:50:00)  (@glamour) hrm dunno my bro gave it to me
(05:50:02)  (@glamour) let me check
(05:50:20)  (@glamour) ok, its a "samick"
(05:50:28)  (@glamour) prolly some cheap shit, but that don't deter me
(05:50:30)  (@j0sh^b33r) never heard of
(05:50:39)  (@j0sh^b33r) it shouldnt
(05:50:52)  (@j0sh^b33r) price != importance
(05:51:12)  (@j0sh^b33r) ive played guitar 2x as long as i've been an electronic musician
(05:51:18)  (@j0sh^b33r) so iw as just curious...
(05:51:35)  (@glamour) cool
(05:51:47)  (@glamour) do you know "khonner" ?
(05:51:50)  (@glamour) he is a good guitarist
(05:51:56)  (@j0sh^b33r) heard of
(05:52:10)  (@j0sh^b33r) im not really one to play into fame
(05:52:22)  (@glamour) what do you mean play into fame ?
(05:52:22)  (@j0sh^b33r) no matter how badasseed you are
(05:52:28)  (@glamour) oh i see
(05:52:32)  (@glamour) thats good actually
(05:52:35)  (@glamour) its good to focus on yourself
(05:52:38)  (@glamour) and not everyone else
(05:52:39)  (@j0sh^b33r) somebody better than you who nobody's ever head of exists
(05:53:31)  (@glamour) I want it all.
(05:53:36)  (@glamour) you only live once
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