Good Morning...

[fallenfool]

Fair warning, if you're not into evolutionary biology, genetics, social history and sexual dynamics, this is gonna bore you to tears...

Oh and it's not meant to be taken hugely seriously, just spouting a few threads going thru my head recently. :D

Comments

[fallenfool]

I'm with you on that one, another stone age is well overdue. I actually came up with a great idea for a novel about the collapse of British civilisation because of the gulf stream conveyor collapse. That's one that might just happen. We are animals, it's obvious, we're not plants and we're not minerals and we're NOT SPECIAL. We're just weird.

I'd just like to point out here that I have a belief system that none of what we call reality is real and yes, by the standards of the reality we live in, we are here just to fuck and breed. That's selfish gene theory though and that's taking a bashing right now. It doesn't work because if that was simply the case we'd just die as soon as our offspring were able to cope for themselves. Why are we driven to build resources for ourselves? To pass the resources to our offspring to give them the best possible chance of breeding? Possibly but we tend to hold onto our resources until death, at which point, we don't really care what happens to them do we? A lot of species, including Humans, do a lot of things that don't fit the "live to breed" model.

A crime you didn't commit? So what happened? Did you go on the run in a big black van with a bunch of mates? Did you become soldiers of fortune, fighting the good fight, for a price? Did you ever turn the van into a battering ram? ;)

I'm with the new wave of scientists getting annoyed at organised religion. Science doesn't displace God, it just displaces the bible, you're still free to believe what you want but it would be nice if there was some logical consistency to it. The more time you spend looking at organised religion, the more you realise it's a bunch of impotent men joining a cult to gain power so they can dictate the mores of society to their own view. Jesus hung around with whores but the Christians treat women of easy virtue as sinners. Inconsistency anyone?

Never offended by intelligent reply. :)

[twisted_dragon]

"A crime you didn't commit? So what happened? Did you go on the run in a big black van with a bunch of mates? Did you become soldiers of fortune, fighting the good fight, for a price? Did you ever turn the van into a battering ram? ;)"

Nah it was more like telling the police man to politely feck himself for not checking the fingerprints more closely. After I pointed out several distinctive differences between my fingerprints and the ones on his arrest sheet he left quietly. As for turning the van into a battering ram, now thats another story ;-)

You have a good point about the 'live to breed' but I think primal instinct is way more complictated than we can comprehend - or at least we are to close to see the whole picture, but that would be drifting into chaos\quantum type theories.

At the root of it (I believe) we are a selfish species, rather than simply being selfish on an individual level we are selfish on many interwoven ones. Such levels as individual-family-culture-race-species are exemplified throughout human society.

[fallenfool]

Fuck. Fuck. Fuck da Police! Fuck. Fuck. Fuck da police! Fuck em!

See, I think, in a nutshell, that's the problem, not many species can override their primal instincts but we can, well I can, your mileage may vary. I think that's why things are so complicated with humans, let's face it, the rest of the animal world just screws whenever the wind is right. OK, mammals put a bit of effort in afterwards but most of nature breeds, births and bogs off.

Add to that humans are constantly being programmed with memes as we grow up (like faith, faith is such a meme) that we then spend most of our adult life either testing and discarding OR burying our heads in the sand. It leads to us being complicated but then, we are the leading expression of complicated genetics. Some would say the Bacteria have got the right idea...

[fallenfool]

Oooh birds, birds put in some effort too. And Crocodiles. Societal insects also. The rest not so much. Frogs couldn't give a monkeys. Don't even start me on turtles, the deserting shits. :p

[twisted_dragon]

Chimps put in a fair effort to, unless of course the offspring happen to be from another group - in which case they can make a tasty treat (see http://www.lessonsforhope.org/abc/show_description.asp?abc_id=21)

Anyway I sense a good rant about turtles in the offing, so just assume I have started you on turtles...

Frogs have a good idea, just drop thousands of offspring in one shot then bugger off and leave 'em. What with all the fresh spring water people get through, do they ever consider whether the frogs get out of the spring to go to the toilet?

[twisted_dragon]

Not to mention the amount of frog sperm they may be indirectly ingesting, now wheres my volvic?