So... we're just close friends now. Which is actually a good thing because maybe later on, if its meant to be, it will be. And I'm in no position to want something I can't put the effort into. Love will come in time, and if he's meant to be it, it will happen. I was kinda sad at first, but you have to realize some things happen for a reason.
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Haroon and I talk about life:
TARNISHEDhearts: yah, its wayy better then hating each other, and at least we can build a better friendship so that way if its meant to be with me and him, it will happen someday.
sarsinfects: sweet
TARNISHEDhearts: im going for patience, time, and fate to lead the way to where im supposed to be.
sarsinfects: dont become lazy though
TARNISHEDhearts: what do you mean?
TARNISHEDhearts: ??
sarsinfects: like
sarsinfects: let life just take you on
sarsinfects: life is still
sarsinfects: you gotta make it move
sarsinfects: patience is all you can let happen
TARNISHEDhearts: first you tell me to sit back and let love find me, now you tell me to take some action
TARNISHEDhearts: ... im all confused.
sarsinfects: im not talking about love
sarsinfects: TARNISHEDhearts: im going for patience, time, and fate to lead the way to where im supposed to be.
sarsinfects: to lead the way to where im supposed to be
sarsinfects: life in general
sarsinfects: love comes and goes
sarsinfects: it goes both ways, you can sit back, or you can go out and look
TARNISHEDhearts: well life is retarded
TARNISHEDhearts: and if the good times didnt outweigh the bad
TARNISHEDhearts: there would be no reason for it
sarsinfects: who says life is supposed to be a good thing
sarsinfects: people always want happiness and good
TARNISHEDhearts: because its all we have
TARNISHEDhearts: why shouldnt it be good
sarsinfects: what if life is meant for hardship and negative things
sarsinfects: what if life is a lesson
TARNISHEDhearts: without life, no one would be here. and if it was only here for bad, there would be no point to living.
sarsinfects: to learn from mistakes and experience
TARNISHEDhearts: life is a lesson we'll learn til we die, and if that is the case, we'd all be dead by the time we actually learned what counts
TARNISHEDhearts: if there was no suffering, there would be no compassion.
sarsinfects: life is always going to be here, you choose your destiny; free will. you choose a good life [if you want] or a bad one
TARNISHEDhearts: you dont always get to choose though.
sarsinfects: why not
TARNISHEDhearts: an orphan for example.
TARNISHEDhearts: they dont have parents.
TARNISHEDhearts: they can get put into a foster home
sarsinfects: the people you confront, everything youve known, is all experience
sarsinfects: ok
sarsinfects: but
sarsinfects: thats one counterexample
sarsinfects: theres many other reasons
sarsinfects: it doesnt mean just cause they are foster children
TARNISHEDhearts: where the mother drinks, the father abuses them, they cant choose to have the good life because right away, their life is horrible
sarsinfects: they cant better themselves, they choose
TARNISHEDhearts: they didnt choose to go into that house and be put there.
sarsinfects: not neccessarily
sarsinfects: not everyone cares about family life
sarsinfects: some just want friends
sarsinfects: no one is ever really happy
sarsinfects: all the money in the world couldnt buy you happiness
TARNISHEDhearts: but if your family life is bad, how can you expect the other life to be better?
TARNISHEDhearts: how we are when we're older, depends on how we were raised
sarsinfects: and love, it just comes and goes, its very very very rare for you to just be dedicated to love
sarsinfects: exactly
sarsinfects: now who says the parents have to do the raising
sarsinfects: you live with what youre given
TARNISHEDhearts: if there was no love for you growing up, there is a lesser chance of you having a stable love life
sarsinfects: and you build from it
sarsinfects: thats why there are chances
TARNISHEDhearts: when most people dont have a mother and a father to raise them and to love them, they end up different as they get older.
sarsinfects: relationships
sarsinfects: hook ups
TARNISHEDhearts: my mother for example.
sarsinfects: you learn from it all
TARNISHEDhearts: she had a dad who loved her
sarsinfects: you cant say that
TARNISHEDhearts: a mother who was literally psychotic
TARNISHEDhearts: and a step mother who beat her and her brothers and sisters everyday with hair brushes, fists, belts, wooden spoons, everything
sarsinfects: ok its true that you need a mother and father for a stable mindset, cause its whats taught, its what youre told when youre being raised up by whomever; a teacher tells you that; people do; and it comes into effect when you see you have no mother or father, so they become depressed and discouraged
sarsinfects: sometimes, people dont need either
sarsinfects: just like you said
TARNISHEDhearts: her life: many relationships, unstability, 5 kids from 3 different men, she cant commit to anything, and she is afraid of love which is why she rarely showed me and my siblings any growing up.
sarsinfects: when youre growing up, you absorb whatever your told and taught
TARNISHEDhearts: she could discipline us, because thats how she was taught to handle things
sarsinfects: ok dont say that
sarsinfects: now your taking it into your own personal life
sarsinfects: so your saying you cant keep a relationship cause of your mom
sarsinfects: see
sarsinfects: negative
sarsinfects: you cant live without negative
sarsinfects: you need it
sarsinfects: thats what life is, its how your learn and create it into good
TARNISHEDhearts: no. im taking it into my own personal life because i have a great example right in front of me.
TARNISHEDhearts: you have to take it into your own personal life to prove a point.
sarsinfects: yeah
sarsinfects: but
sarsinfects: what youre saying
sarsinfects: is not true
sarsinfects: just cause your mom couldnt keep one
sarsinfects: doesnt mean you cant
sarsinfects: dont believe that
sarsinfects: youre being held down because every relationship you had failed
TARNISHEDhearts: and im not saying my mother is the reason i can't commit. my sister could, she's been married for 4 years. my brothers can, they've been with their gf's for 3 years.
sarsinfects: you need confidence
sarsinfects: well then why are you using it as your reason
sarsinfects: cause somewhere deep down, you believe it sometimes
sarsinfects: when you feel hopeless
TARNISHEDhearts: im not blaming my mother for myself. im saying, what happened to her is a perfect example of why SHE couldn't do it.
TARNISHEDhearts: I wasn't talking about myself for once.
sarsinfects: listen
sarsinfects: why dont you think you cant keep a steady relationship
sarsinfects: why do you resort to hook ups
TARNISHEDhearts: because i havent found the one who makes me feel like im everything.
sarsinfects: which is reality, i.e. logic
sarsinfects: WHICH
sarsinfects: most of the time is NEGATIVE
sarsinfects: all you need is confidence
sarsinfects: thats all
TARNISHEDhearts: and frankly, i know i wont ever find the perfect boy for me, because thats a nonexistent thing. its just a hope every girl has, but somewhere there is a boy that is right for me, but not perfect.
sarsinfects: everyone should know that though
TARNISHEDhearts: i have confidence. plenty of confidence. i know im a good person, and i have a good personality and others see it too.
sarsinfects: perfect is too much of a high expectation, then they are brought down when they cant find it
sarsinfects: right is right
sarsinfects: thats you
sarsinfects: im talking
sarsinfects: confidence in love
sarsinfects: you dont
TARNISHEDhearts: how do you figure?
TARNISHEDhearts: because i let them all go?
sarsinfects: youre saying to yourself, you cant even keep a steady relationship, how is that confidence, its fact.
sarsinfects: your afraid
sarsinfects: cause
sarsinfects: you dont think any of them will work
sarsinfects: theres many factors to it
TARNISHEDhearts: love comes with life. you learn to put trust into life, you can put trust into love.
TARNISHEDhearts: you know im paranoid and its hard for me to trust. its something i have to learn.
sarsinfects: from what ive learned, trust is a sketchy belief
sarsinfects: i dont think you can tell someone everything and anything
TARNISHEDhearts: but its a belief you have to have if you're going to have friendships and relationships
sarsinfects: i think mild thinkings are permissable
sarsinfects: but not your life into someone elses hands
sarsinfects: yeah
sarsinfects: and theres a fine point to that line
TARNISHEDhearts: if you marry someone, you have to trust them more then anyone else and you have to be able to open your heart at all time.
sarsinfects: haha marriage is a WHOLEEEE other issue
sarsinfects: and i dont wanna get into it
TARNISHEDhearts: if you're in a relationship, as time goes on and things get more serious, you have to be able to trust more and more.
sarsinfects: of course
sarsinfects: thats different
TARNISHEDhearts: and the same goes for friendships.
sarsinfects: in a way
sarsinfects: yeah
sarsinfects: but
TARNISHEDhearts: the deeper you get into the friendship and the closer you get to that person, you have to be able to open up.
sarsinfects: friendships and relationships have different feelings attached
sarsinfects: trust is different
sarsinfects: ok
sarsinfects: basic trust is the same for both
sarsinfects: but im talking intellectual trust
TARNISHEDhearts: trust is one thing.
sarsinfects: lets say
TARNISHEDhearts: there are many different levels to it.
TARNISHEDhearts: but its all there, and it takes its own form.
sarsinfects: a kid who doesnt like going to school or takes it seirous, but he believes work is more important
sarsinfects: now
sarsinfects: lets say the school is a friendship
sarsinfects: its there
sarsinfects: its stable
sarsinfects: but work, is a relationsip
sarsinfects: now
TARNISHEDhearts: school is not life, its only part of it.
sarsinfects: no
sarsinfects: im using an example
sarsinfects: ok
sarsinfects: im speaking generally
sarsinfects: schools not involved in this
sarsinfects: do you see it in that aspect
sarsinfects: it depends on the person
sarsinfects: some people care more about friendships then relationships
TARNISHEDhearts: but everyone wants someone.
sarsinfects: [ school more then work ]
TARNISHEDhearts: no one wants to die alone.
sarsinfects: thats later though
sarsinfects: who says youre gonna find love now
TARNISHEDhearts: thats always.
TARNISHEDhearts: you could die tomorrow
sarsinfects: you might find it in 40 50 years
TARNISHEDhearts: and you could be alone.
sarsinfects: dying isnt part of the issue now
sarsinfects: do you believe in faith
sarsinfects: i mean
sarsinfects: fate*
TARNISHEDhearts: well, im saying, everyone wants companionship. everyone wants someone there that they can talk to and love.
TARNISHEDhearts: yes i believe in fate
TARNISHEDhearts: serendipity. all that.
TARNISHEDhearts: i look for signs in everything.
sarsinfects: i dont get it
sarsinfects: i never got fate
sarsinfects: i believe in free will and logic
sarsinfects: cause
sarsinfects: if there was fate
sarsinfects: doesnt that mean
sarsinfects: no matter what you do, theres a plan waiting to be executed
sarsinfects: whichever road you take
sarsinfects: theres a conclusion at the end
sarsinfects: you dont control it
TARNISHEDhearts: yes. and thats why i believe in it. i dont know whats supposed to happen for me in life. i can only believe fate will decide and fate will take whatever action it was meant to take.
sarsinfects: doesnt that suck
sarsinfects: whats the point to living
sarsinfects: if you dont control it
sarsinfects: why dont you jsut sit back then
sarsinfects: let whatever happens happens
TARNISHEDhearts: you dont control anything.
TARNISHEDhearts: except yourself
TARNISHEDhearts: and your decisions
sarsinfects: exactly
sarsinfects: thats fate
sarsinfects: you
sarsinfects: whatever happens to you is cause of fate?
sarsinfects: why do anything then
sarsinfects: if someone has a shitty life
sarsinfects: they cant build a successful life?
sarsinfects: ive seen it happen many times
TARNISHEDhearts: they can
sarsinfects: and its cause they got themselves together
TARNISHEDhearts: with the decisions they make
sarsinfects: yeah
sarsinfects: but whats that have to do with fate
sarsinfects: that means
TARNISHEDhearts: because you decide, and fate takes control after that.
sarsinfects: if you make a decision, theres an end to it at the end
sarsinfects: why cant you change the end
sarsinfects: if you wanted to change the end
sarsinfects: why cant you
sarsinfects: which also means
sarsinfects: if you keep changing it
sarsinfects: it never stops
TARNISHEDhearts: Fate comes from Greek and Roman Mythology. Three goddesses, Clotho, Lachesis, and Atropos controlled human destiny. if they could believe it soo long ago, and still have it be around now, why shouldnt it be something to put a belief into?
TARNISHEDhearts: you cant control the ending to the story of your life.
TARNISHEDhearts: why would you want to?
TARNISHEDhearts: it makes everything boring and dull.
TARNISHEDhearts: then life would be pointless.
TARNISHEDhearts: if you controlled everything you did, what would you have to live for?
sarsinfects: what do you have to live for now?
sarsinfects: see
sarsinfects: isnt this never ending
TARNISHEDhearts: i have to live for my future.
sarsinfects: theres so much more to life
sarsinfects: this is where religion and beliefs come into effect
sarsinfects: its all just what you believe in
sarsinfects: and everyone could fight
sarsinfects: but no one knows until the end of time right
sarsinfects: which could never come
sarsinfects: or until judgement day
TARNISHEDhearts: life is an amazing, good thing. its all anybody has, and how you choose to live your life and what you choose to believe is up to you.
sarsinfects: or till whatever you believe in
sarsinfects: which is what im tyring to say haha
TARNISHEDhearts: well, what a nice discussion when in the end, we're trying to prove the same point.
sarsinfects: in a way
sarsinfects: it depends how your born
sarsinfects: wait
sarsinfects: i mean
sarsinfects: how you want your life to be
sarsinfects: decisions decisions
TARNISHEDhearts: you can only be born one way.
sarsinfects: some people hate life
sarsinfects: some people think its amazing
sarsinfects: life has its ups and downs
sarsinfects: basically
sarsinfects: you decide how life is
TARNISHEDhearts: because of the decisions people made.
sarsinfects: yeah
TARNISHEDhearts: if life was easy, it would sucj
TARNISHEDhearts: *suck
sarsinfects: itd be boring
TARNISHEDhearts: you need challenges to make you who you are.
sarsinfects: of course duh
TARNISHEDhearts: and thats why people have imperfections.
sarsinfects: depends who perceives imperfections
TARNISHEDhearts: imperfections are what make people beautiful.
sarsinfects: something that you dont like about somebody, someone else will probably love
sarsinfects: life is decisions and perception
TARNISHEDhearts: thats exactly what i was going to say
sarsinfects: your basically giving the facts of life to me
sarsinfects: yeppp
TARNISHEDhearts: for example, the things i didnt like about tommy, stefanie adored.
TARNISHEDhearts: which is why they worked better together
sarsinfects: true.
This is why he is my best friend.