Odd sort of Victory...

Nov 11, 2011 12:58



From the headlines of The Hill Times today - what's going on on Parliament Hill:
    Conservatives fined for breaking elections laws, but Tories claim outcome a ‘big victory’The Conservative party and its financial arm pleaded guilty Thursday to a total of four charges of exceeding the party’s campaign expenses for the 2006 federal election and ( Read more... )

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fajrdrako November 12 2011, 14:11:49 UTC
I'm inclined to think people are morally thoughtless, rather than just stupid... or maybe simply discouraged into apathy?

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fajrdrako November 12 2011, 16:03:32 UTC
It means there's hope. Stupidity is generally incurable. Apathy can be changed.

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dewline November 11 2011, 19:29:04 UTC
A lot of Us The Voters want the laws respected. But we're the Outvoted Majority.

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fajrdrako November 12 2011, 14:12:19 UTC
They act as if breaking these laws isn't a criminal act. I don't get it.

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dewline November 12 2011, 14:44:17 UTC
There's an essay by George Orwell on political speech-writing that explains things like this: "Politics and the English Language". Looked at through such a lens as that essay, I find it unsurprising that they spin a plea-bargain and wrist-slap-sized fine to look like a "Great Political Victory Over Those Damned Meddling Bureaucrats at Elections Canada".

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fajrdrako November 12 2011, 16:01:55 UTC
That's a very clear way of expressing it - and how sad that is!

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lunacy_gal November 11 2011, 22:41:46 UTC
Because the cheaters and liars are the ones who promise more money and fewer taxes. (Whether they follow through is unimportant; the promise is there, and that's all the average voter wants to hear.)

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dewline November 11 2011, 22:59:00 UTC
Maybe I'm "not average" due to reading too much Occupy Movement-related coverage of late, but I'm not inclined to believe that you're fairly characterizing the "average voter".

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lunacy_gal November 12 2011, 01:00:22 UTC
The average voter voted in our current government. That's why they won. I'm not saying the average Canadian, because statistics show that the average Canadian doesn't vote at all.

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dewline November 12 2011, 01:41:51 UTC
To be fair, "doesn't vote at all" is an exaggeration. Dangerously close to coming true, but still an exaggeration.

Also, "First Past the Post" rules make for Outvoted Majorities a fair bit of the time when the majority in question can't agree on who/what they actually do want in charge of the government. Which ties into motive behind that danger mentioned above.

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