Supernatural: what went wrong?

Mar 15, 2010 20:15



abrakadabrah pointed me to an interesting commentary on the fifth season of Supernatural by karenmillerI'm still mulling it over ( Read more... )

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lionessvalenti March 16 2010, 00:44:01 UTC
I have to say, I'm glad I stopped watching. I loved the first two seasons, I even like season three, though people complain about it a lot. I loved Bela, she was the best part of S3 for me.

I was waning in season four. I feel like the only person who didn't draw instant love to Castiel. I mean, he's interesting, but I wasn't bowled over. I watched the first few episodes of season five and stopped. Not out of conscious decision, but that I sort of forgot. Everything I'm hearing about season five just sort of tells me that I'm not missing much. Which is sad. :(

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fajrdrako March 16 2010, 01:11:47 UTC
Although my reaction didn't come till later than yours - by about three months - the effect was the same. I went from eagerly counting the days till the next episode, to forgetting when it was on, and not getting around to watching it for a long time.

I didn't love season one; maybe because I saw it all out of order. Only liked bits of season three. But even there, the story held me enough to want to watch it, and really enjoy it.

Even now, I like individual episodes, but it doesn't hang together. Which is really a shame.

I hope it gets over its slump.

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fajrdrako March 16 2010, 11:58:56 UTC
If this were another show with a different ambiance- more understated, more intellectual- Lucifer would've been really, really awesome.

Theoretically, yes. And I can't entirely put my finger on why I find him so disappointing; but he isn't scary, he isn't charming, he doesn't even feel like much of a threat. Is it the writing, or the actor, or the direction? I'm not sure. But Lucifer is a big anticlimax. And the game of him telling Sam "I want your body" and Sam saying "No," got old really fast.

The only scene in which I liked Lucifer was when Jared Padalecki was playing him, in "The End". But I don't want Lucifer to possess Sam!

He doesn't seem to have the gravity that Castiel had, right from the get-go.

No, and sadly, Castiel doesn't any more, either.

I love their Lucifer, all laid-back and sneaky

I'd like it in theory, but the sneakiness just isn't working for me. He seems... not sneaky enough. Not dangerous enough.

I miss the 'real' Castiel....

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kikibug13 March 16 2010, 04:59:14 UTC
The last two episodes were better? Not as good as last season, but good?

*still hopes*

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fajrdrako March 16 2010, 12:00:25 UTC
I think so. I remember enjoying them, but truth to tell, I don't even remember what they were now. I'm feeling a little too discouraged to watch them again, but maybe I should. I'm so much more excited over White Collar right now.

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kikibug13 March 16 2010, 12:03:15 UTC
Yeah, with Dean in my head, it's hard to forget Michael. And that Sammy was in that panic room for detox again.

Ahem.

That said, that's two eps after I don't know how many who are on a level with last season. Alas, not with the best of last season, but there's time yet.

Mmmmm nom nom nom White Collar. I think July is what I heard for next season.

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fajrdrako March 16 2010, 12:16:37 UTC
with Dean in my head, it's hard to forget Michael

So... that was the one where we learned that the Trickster was Michael? explodedteabag was infuriated by that; she loved the Trickster and wanted him to be the Trickster god, not a Christian simulacrum. We both wanted the Trickster to be a powerful wild card, not part of the angel conspiracy. So that was a disappointment. That may be why I forgot about it. Comfort levels.

Don't remember Sam in the detox room. Hmm. Yeah, should watch again, if I find the time.

I don't think Supernatural is entirely lost - there've been episodes this year I really liked - and one really good episode would pull be back and make me love it again. But I fear to hope it will happen, and a few more plot developments that I don't like, and stories that seem incidental, and I'll lose patience. I like dark fantasy and I like dark fantasy that uses Christian myth, but I don't like horror ( ... )

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atheneunknown March 16 2010, 10:36:12 UTC
I tried to get into this fandom, but I couldn't get there. I watched a couple episodes and felt no connection to the characters.

All of the 'omg its so awful' talk, almost makes me want to watch it again, to see if maybe I'll like it now. I come across bitchy, but the episodes I saw did nothing for me, so if the people who like that think THIS is bad, its either a trainwreck worth watching, or something I might enjoy.

And yes, just reading this I get flashbacks to the X-files. *sigh*

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fajrdrako March 16 2010, 11:51:15 UTC
I watched a few episodes of Supernatural way back when, including fan favourites, and they did nothing for me - I thought the supernatural angle was hokey and the boys were ugly. It was Castiel (and his connection to John Constantine) who drew me in, and once I got into the story in season 4, I wanted to see the backstory. Then I fell in love with Dean. And, to a lesser extent, with John.

Come to think of it, I was just the same with X-Files - the first three or four times I watched it, I thought it was silly and dull. Then I fell in love with Fox Mulder. Then I thought the stories were brilliant.

I don't think the stories in Supernatural are brilliant, but some of the episodes are.

Yeah, flashbacks to X-Files.

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