And to further your comments about Stephen, honestly, after they killed Ianto, I kept everything else at a distance. I was literally grieving and had put up a wall around myself so I could get through the last episode in the vague hope that it was a fakeout death, as so many have been in RTD's world. Alas, it was not to be.
Also, intercutting Ianto's death with Clem's took away 99% of the power of Clem's death for us, and Ianto's death lost something as well. We literally screamed at the computer for them to get back to the room with Jack and Ianto. Sure, as a creative, it is a goal to GET a reaction, but I'm not sure that's the one they were looking for.
At this point, I really don't know if I could support Torchwood in any form, though your suggestion is the one I'm closest to being able to grok. Because I DO engage with characters. Not usually as much as I did with Ianto, or Ianto/Jack, but I do. And it's been proven beyond a doubt to me that characters in RTD-developed shows are doomed to tragedy. Life doesn't always have to be happy, and sometimes I like a good cry as much if not more than a good laugh, but this level of consistent doom is not something I can work with.
Day 4 tore me up. Day 5 inevitably wasn't going to be as emotionally draining but it still had its moments (Frobisher's death - the army taking the children). I'm afraid I was never hoping for a reset - the world of Children of Earth (apart from the aliens) was hyper real - not a world in which the likes of the Risen Mitten exists.
I'm not quite sure what the point of Clem was. OK so they worked out how to kill the 456 through him but his story was a miserable one - orphaned, sacrificed by his government, homeless, institutionalised and then killed by aliens. Geez - fun!
Constant doom and gloom is just wearing - it was the characters that loved and RTD has decimated virtually all of them.
Also, intercutting Ianto's death with Clem's took away 99% of the power of Clem's death for us, and Ianto's death lost something as well. We literally screamed at the computer for them to get back to the room with Jack and Ianto. Sure, as a creative, it is a goal to GET a reaction, but I'm not sure that's the one they were looking for.
At this point, I really don't know if I could support Torchwood in any form, though your suggestion is the one I'm closest to being able to grok. Because I DO engage with characters. Not usually as much as I did with Ianto, or Ianto/Jack, but I do. And it's been proven beyond a doubt to me that characters in RTD-developed shows are doomed to tragedy. Life doesn't always have to be happy, and sometimes I like a good cry as much if not more than a good laugh, but this level of consistent doom is not something I can work with.
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I'm not quite sure what the point of Clem was. OK so they worked out how to kill the 456 through him but his story was a miserable one - orphaned, sacrificed by his government, homeless, institutionalised and then killed by aliens. Geez - fun!
Constant doom and gloom is just wearing - it was the characters that loved and RTD has decimated virtually all of them.
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