omg, I got kicked out of science class today for saying I am proud of the people who got out there and did that! BLARRRFGH stupid science man >:0 And I'm sure that if another one rolls around, you'll be there with bells on. It kind of makes me wish we had one here, so that I could be a more active activist. But then it's like, oh, duh, not a bad thing they arent here. And if you are really really upset about missing it, in a little bit, help organize another one! <123
See my comments to Sarrah. Instead of supporting PETA's mental masturbation and "look at us be activists" thing, you could look into finding an effective method of bringing about change.
I eat meat and wear leather. I do, however, hate the idea of animals being raised just for fur, and that would be an easy first step for a large part of the population to start with.
If PETA focused on one small goal at a time they might accomplish something, but alas, they are more concerned with making noise and acting like petulant children throwing fits than with doing anything effective.
I agree fullheartedly with this, and your discussion with Sarrah, in that the almost nazi-like actions and blatantly false propaganda detracts from the most important point, and it unfortunately runs rampant. And it is a shame that an organization would run its name through the mud like that. But the fact of the matter will always be, despite the idiocy and corruption, they are trying to help those who cannot help themselves, and the KFC prtests in particular are important because many companies, (Purdue, for example) have shown that the abuse KFC subjects animals to is gratuitous. With an organization like this, you really have to pick your battles, and this is one of your best bets. Sorry for my
I dunno. PETA started out with some good ideas, but now they're pretty much a hypocritical organization that uses lies and out-of-context truth to shock instead of educate. Besides, I wear leather and eat meat. ;-)
I'm against many of the same things they are, but PETA will always be an ineffectual organization unless they pull their heads out of their asses and focus on first off using only accurate information instead of whatever apocryphal rantings are most provoking, and on taking baby steps--working on small victories instead of demanding sweeping change.
The civil rights movement did not get where it is by demanding everything overnight and refusing to accept less, and neither will PETA. Until they figure this out, PETA is mental masturbation.
*nods* However, their behavior in general detracts from even their valid messages. That they use so much unfounded propoganda in some areas causes me to doubt the veracity of everything they say and, indeed, they end up eliciting a hostile response from many for precisely this reason.
Far better, IMHO, for someone interested in animal rights to abandon PETA altogether and seek out (or form) reputable, reasonable organizations.
Now for a better reply: I can’t stand how the organization and it’s members act pretentious and condescending manner toward people. They try to tell omnivores like myself that eating meat is WRONG, and even says that I am committing MURDER. Do they think acting like far-left extremist’s who say dumb crap like that will really convince me? It just rubs me the wrong way. They do have the right idea about HELPING animals, But are failing miserably at doing that. They destroy other people's property, and come up with ridiculous slogans like "eating meat causes impotence" And they don’t even spend one percent of it’s $13 million dollar budget actually caring for animals.
If they warn’t so good at alienating people like myself, I’d be pro-Peta any day!
This is just my opinion Sarrah, I am one very opinionated asshole :)
Oh Billy my dear, I do love you to pieces for being the opinionted asshole that you are :) I wouldn't have you any other way. I'm an equally opinionated asshole, as you will see from reading my reply to worldforger above. I'm not going to type that whole thing out again, but please check it out right above your first comment :)
Hearts, 2, 3. I made a fabulous choice in marrying you, indeed!
Boycott KFC, that's all that can be done realistically. I have hated what KFC have done and are continuing to do to chickens sense I heard about it back in 99? And have boycotted them ever sense. You rock Sarrah
Yes, they are indeed pretty frightening and maniacal at times. Over the top, really. Read worldforger's argument above, and then read my reply. I think you'll find it interesting :-p
I see that... sounds like a conversation from my critical thinking course! My views on PETA are kind of complicated an complex. They are an extreme organization.. and extremity on either side scares me. However, if you have extremety on one side, don't we need extremity on the other to balance it out?
If PETA didnt go to the extremes that they do.. would animal be treated less ethically in the United States. If the answer is yes, then we can say that perhaps the extremeity is worth it. Then we can move forward by distinguishing those elements of the oragnization which are affective and isolate them from the nonproductive ones.
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And I'm sure that if another one rolls around, you'll be there with bells on. It kind of makes me wish we had one here, so that I could be a more active activist. But then it's like, oh, duh, not a bad thing they arent here.
And if you are really really upset about missing it, in a little bit, help organize another one!
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I eat meat and wear leather. I do, however, hate the idea of animals being raised just for fur, and that would be an easy first step for a large part of the population to start with.
If PETA focused on one small goal at a time they might accomplish something, but alas, they are more concerned with making noise and acting like petulant children throwing fits than with doing anything effective.
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But the fact of the matter will always be, despite the idiocy and corruption, they are trying to help those who cannot help themselves, and the KFC prtests in particular are important because many companies, (Purdue, for example) have shown that the abuse KFC subjects animals to is gratuitous.
With an organization like this, you really have to pick your battles, and this is one of your best bets.
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I'm against many of the same things they are, but PETA will always be an ineffectual organization unless they pull their heads out of their asses and focus on first off using only accurate information instead of whatever apocryphal rantings are most provoking, and on taking baby steps--working on small victories instead of demanding sweeping change.
The civil rights movement did not get where it is by demanding everything overnight and refusing to accept less, and neither will PETA. Until they figure this out, PETA is mental masturbation.
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Hearts, 2, 3. <333
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Far better, IMHO, for someone interested in animal rights to abandon PETA altogether and seek out (or form) reputable, reasonable organizations.
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I can’t stand how the organization and it’s members act pretentious and condescending manner toward people. They try to tell omnivores like myself that eating meat is WRONG, and even says that I am committing MURDER.
Do they think acting like far-left extremist’s who say dumb crap like that will really convince me? It just rubs me the wrong way.
They do have the right idea about HELPING animals, But are failing miserably at doing that. They destroy other people's property, and come up with ridiculous slogans like "eating meat causes impotence"
And they don’t even spend one percent of it’s $13 million dollar budget actually caring for animals.
If they warn’t so good at alienating people like myself, I’d be pro-Peta any day!
This is just my opinion Sarrah, I am one very opinionated asshole :)
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Hearts, 2, 3. I made a fabulous choice in marrying you, indeed!
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You rock Sarrah
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Yes, they are indeed pretty frightening and maniacal at times. Over the top, really. Read worldforger's argument above, and then read my reply. I think you'll find it interesting :-p
Hearts, 2, 3. <333
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If PETA didnt go to the extremes that they do.. would animal be treated less ethically in the United States. If the answer is yes, then we can say that perhaps the extremeity is worth it. Then we can move forward by distinguishing those elements of the oragnization which are affective and isolate them from the nonproductive ones.
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