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Jun 06, 2011 17:49

Rex working in the infirmary is unacceptable. I demand that he be removed from this post at once. It is an outrage that such a murderous man has been allowed into a place of healing.

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Surely it cannot be agreed that Rex will work amongst us. He is... Rex.

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needshumility June 6 2011, 07:52:13 UTC
Victor.

He will not be working with you, I've made sure of that. Otherwise, you have no right to object to him working there over any other inmate, so stop, and leave it alone.

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failedcreator June 6 2011, 07:55:31 UTC
It is the principle of the matter. This is Rex! He has caused much harm in this place. He ought not to be allowed near people. He ought to be kept in zero.

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needshumility June 6 2011, 08:14:03 UTC
Victor, stop and think about this.

Why Rex? If you were saying this about inmates who'd hurt people, full stop, then it'd be harsh, but an opinion. But you're not. You're talking about him. Just him.

This isn't really about him being 'dangerous'. Is it?

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failedcreator June 6 2011, 08:20:06 UTC
I would perhaps take this view on any inmate! [Perhaps.]

It is about the threat he presents. You were not here in the time of the nanomites.

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needshumility June 6 2011, 08:23:59 UTC
Except you never said a word about any of the others.

I've heard enough about them, Victor. He is no different to most other inmates wanting to work there, and you're just being needlessly objectionable because you have other reasons to do so.

Everyone here's done something wrong, but they get the chance to be useful to the collective, to do something to make up for that. So let him, and stop complaining about it. You're not forced to work with him, but even if you were, sometimes you have to work with people you don't like much.

You know how I said treat him like he was any other person? This is not treating him like any other person, because this is not really on the basis of what he's done, but because of what you already think about him.

So do the sensible thing and drop this before people dislike you more than they already do.

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failedcreator June 6 2011, 08:26:12 UTC
You do not understand this world. You merely twist words once more, sir, so that they mean little. If I knew of other inmates what I knew of Rex, I would do this very same thing. So it is.

And many people like me. It is Rex who is disliked.

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needshumility June 6 2011, 08:32:02 UTC
I understand it well enough to know that this isn't fair. If you protested at every other inmate working there like this, it might at least be balanced. This is just... [damn, he doesn't know the word 'prejudice'] judging someone for something arbitrary.

Victor, how do I get this across to you? You're offending people. The more you do that, the more people dislike you. It's really quite simple.

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failedcreator June 6 2011, 08:37:49 UTC
I would protest others if they were of equal danger. But they are not. They have a conscious, which Rex does not possess.

[Pause, pause.] This is their modern sensibilities. They do not understand.

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needshumility June 6 2011, 08:41:42 UTC
Right. Stop right there.

It's not their modern sensibilities. I don't have the same kind of sensibilities, and I can basically see that you're denying he has the ability to have a conscience.

That crosses a line because it's quite plainly obvious to everyone except you that he's just as capable of thought and making decisions than anyone else. Think what you're implying before you say things like that.

Say one more ill thought out, offensive comment, and the meat stays with me, Victor.

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failedcreator June 6 2011, 08:49:53 UTC
That is most unjust. I have earned the points, thus it belongs to me.

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needshumility June 6 2011, 08:52:18 UTC
I haven't got it yet. We haven't done the trade yet.

You just got demerited 70 points.

[Private]

And I know, Victor, he's hurt you and he's done some horrific things. I'm not asking you to forgive him that with no incentive, but I'm asking you to treat him like you would anyone else in the same position.

From the fact you said you wanted him in a cage, and that you didn't think he had a conscience at all, I'm saying you're not.

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failedcreator June 6 2011, 08:54:52 UTC
That is most unreasonable! If these points can be so easily removed, I see no reason to continue my work in the infirmary for them, especially considering the presence of Rex.

[Private]

The things that I have said are not untrue.

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needshumility June 6 2011, 08:59:17 UTC
I said, you're not working with him. Quitting is running away from it, Victor.

[Private]

Yes, they are. I fail to see what makes him any different to any other inmate. He's hurt you specifically, okay, that's a point why you're so set on this.

But the point is, he's taking responsibility for what he's done wrong and trying to do something for the general good in return. He won't get to do anything harmful, as he's being watched.

Perhaps you should take a little responsibility, and recognise that what you've done wrong is constantly insulting him, and try to stop going down that path over and over again.

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failedcreator June 6 2011, 09:02:07 UTC
I am not running. I no longer wish to do this. So it is.

[Private]

What would you have me do? Shall I merely sit idle and see Rex harm those who are innocent in this place? It is madness.

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needshumility June 6 2011, 09:07:41 UTC
Yes, you are. You're using petty excuses to avoid doing a job, and I was not unreasonable to take those points away, as you're just repeating everything you've done before, the way you've judged people before. You can have an opinion, absolutely, but don't offend people when expressing it, and don't pick on one person in particular, as that's not fair.

[Private]

No, you shouldn't sit idle if you see Rex harming someone. But you've got to give him reasonable opportunity not to harm people.

If you actually see it happening, tell someone. Tell me. Then you can act, and complain as much as you like. This time, he hasn't done anything but express an interest in work.

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failedcreator June 6 2011, 09:11:16 UTC
You cannot force me to do something that I do not wish to do.

[Private]

As you say. I will not object further to his presence, but I refuse to be in the vicinity of him.

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