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Why I Can't Bring Myself to Hate Obama

May 18, 2009 08:58

My family and the one conservative friend I have seethe with fury over Obama. And their reasons are sound. His spending is off the charts. He immediately re-commenced funding stem cell research even though there are strong indications of its imminent irrelevancy to science. He went to Europe and kissed so much ass that he gave "first black ( Read more... )

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theglen May 19 2009, 04:21:12 UTC

Obama is hard guy not to like. He's a charming well spoken guy. I don't trust him further than I can throw him, but he seems decent enough. His policies are about to wreck the country, he speaks out of both sides of his mouth, and it strongly looks like he doesn't have a clue what he's doing.

I wonder if he'll have the same calm when the press turn on him.

explosivespam May 19 2009, 12:59:20 UTC

"I wonder if he'll have the same calm when the press turn on him."

What? The press didn't turn on Bill Clinton. What makes you think they'll turn on Obama?

l_c_chadwick May 19 2009, 13:32:17 UTC

Agreed. The press has invested too much of their own credibility in Obama's image. He's too big to fail.

persephone78 May 19 2009, 22:25:52 UTC

They didn't turn on Clinton? Seriously? Is that how you see it?

Because what I saw is a massive turning on Clinton with the whole Lewinski bullshit, and well they should have turned on him.

explosivespam May 19 2009, 22:45:43 UTC

I remember many many sympathetic arguments about how as long as the country was moving in the right direction, what the president did in his own bedroom was his own business.

Although to be fair, that didn't stop them from covering it non. stop.

persephone78 May 19 2009, 23:08:03 UTC

Well, I can actually see that argument. But still they would not give up coverage of every last dress stain and barf worthy cigar reference.

explosivespam May 19 2009, 23:13:53 UTC

But that's not nearly as much anti-Clinton as it is pro-semen.

persephone78 May 19 2009, 23:20:30 UTC

That is one thing this country agrees upon. It is decidedly and sometimes disturbingly pro-semen.

l_c_chadwick May 19 2009, 13:39:49 UTC

See, I don't get that "hard guy not to like" thing. He's officious and pompous and pretentious. He is the picture of "do as I say" moralizing. He and his wife have repeatedly told people not to acheive, don't seek to better themselves, wrapping it in flowery rhetoric about sacrificing for the community, which amounts to "don't succeed on your own terms, don't be an individual, work for us and we'll take care of your every need. Just don't want too much." How is that likeable. How is that charming or endearing. People like him because they're supposed to. The press says your a bad person if you don't.

I find him very unlikeable, but I've always had a burr under my ass over "cooler-than-thou" people and being told what to think and feel about them.

persephone78 May 19 2009, 22:22:37 UTC

I don't get how Obama is "pretentious" or "elitist" after we've had Bush in who's about as elitist and privileged as they come and just happens to be good at wrapping it in a nice "I'm a good guy cowboy, wanna get a beer?" package.

Bush had everything handed to him and yet everything he has ever touched in his life, including our country has turned to shit. Indeed I hate Bush, just as much if not more than you hate Obama.

The press also said the past 8 years that if you weren't for Bush you were against America. The press is sycophantic on both the right and the left.

I have a feeling that we can't see eye to eye on either Bush or Obama, but I know that I'm sincerely interested in helping this country get out of the mess it's in regardless of how that mess got created. I'm even willing to work with people who really don't agree with me, but I don't know if they (you) are willing to work with me.

explosivespam May 19 2009, 22:44:26 UTC

"The press also said the past 8 years that if you weren't for Bush you were against America."

I don't recall the press holding this position. In fact, I recall the press actively mocking this position.

persephone78 May 19 2009, 23:12:27 UTC

As a lefty, I felt like there was no national outlet during the Bush years for really left positions.

Now we have MSNBC, which fully admits it's bias, unlike Fox which denies it's bias and reports strongly from it. Although I am still way more left socially than 90% of America (given my personal identities, although I'm personally prolife) and even MSNBC isn't progressive enough in that arena, even with the hot dyke Rachel Maddow.

explosivespam May 19 2009, 23:14:47 UTC

Rachel Maddow IS hot. I have an unexplainable thing for her.

persephone78 May 19 2009, 23:19:51 UTC

Well, she's a snarky lesbian. The appeal speaks for itself.

She is wicked hottt. I haven't laughed at anything quite as hard as I laughed at her coverage of the "teabagging" in a while.

explosivespam May 20 2009, 00:13:29 UTC

We share a birthday, too!

l_c_chadwick May 20 2009, 12:06:12 UTC

I was very unhappy with Bush. He, like Obama, wrapped socialist and fascist policy in conservative speech and shoved it down the people's throat in the name of protection. He cut taxes and failed (when he had the chance) to make it permanent. He opposed enforcing current immigration law. He "sacrificed free market principles" when it's clear from the start he never had any. But we're not talking about Bush. He's gone ( ... )

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