A dish fit only for a madman!

May 03, 2007 12:45

In case anyone has missed it, I kind of have a toothpick up my nose (figurative) about modern (almost post-modern, I would say) conceptions of racism and sexism, and the specific problem that I have with the essential racism of applying different standards of interactions (and ethics!) to people of different races, owing to some presume 'race- ( Read more... )

racism, sexism, prejudice, culture

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beliael May 3 2007, 03:35:25 UTC
Damn yooou German laws! I hope the prosecutors appeal those cases and gets such terrible precedent overruled.

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evil_mr_tim May 3 2007, 04:03:41 UTC
Did you hear that in Britain, they actually have special 'Muslim Courts' now? >_>
Not good...

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evil_mr_tim May 3 2007, 16:38:54 UTC
Common sense?
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In England?

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copper_fingers May 3 2007, 06:24:46 UTC
I liked the news article not long ago about the woman who was sentenced to being stoned to death (or being lashed or something) for being raped by her step-father.

And by liked I mean became incandescent with rage and my head promptly caved in.

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evil_mr_tim May 3 2007, 16:13:40 UTC
There's an analogy involving cats and meat that I could mention right now to shed further light on the mindsets involved. But that would be in pretty bad taste, all things considered.

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bastard_king May 3 2007, 09:21:18 UTC
Debbie Schlussel was right! :O

...seriously though, that's terrible.

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evil_mr_tim May 3 2007, 16:12:39 UTC
Are you saying secularists should be less tolerant of cultural relativism? Or that secularists should.. just stop kidding themselves and become Muslims?

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aussietiger May 3 2007, 13:19:52 UTC
Can I throw into the hat the racism that is "Black History Month". Consider if there was such a thing as "White History Month". There'd be outrage and cries of white supremacy.

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beliael May 3 2007, 15:14:46 UTC
Because every month is white history month as people (especially kiddies) get taught predominantly white history?

It's kinda like saying it's discriminatory to have a Save the Children week and not also a Non-Poverty-Stricken Children Week. Some things need more awareness because they generally don't get a lot of awareness yet it has some sort of detrimental affect on a large number of people.

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aussietiger May 3 2007, 16:07:29 UTC
That's the thing though. In America, where Black History Month is predominantly ... celebrated? ... black history is normally taught as well as white history. It's pretty hard to do American history for too long without coming across some black history. The country was built by slaves. All Black History Month does is set out one month of the year where, instead of being called lazy or a bad student for not paying attention in class, students get called racist. [For example, the students in Boston this year, who put up mock-posters in their school for a "White History Month" and made national news and talk-shows for being "damn negro-hating Klansmen!*"]

As with all major topics, we should look to the celebrities for wisdom. Legendary film star Morgan Freeman says - "I don't want a black history month. Black history is American history." On 60 Minutes, he noted that there is no "white history month," and the only way to get rid of racism is to "stop talking about it."

So there you go. Case dismissed.

[*some artistic freedom used]

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evil_mr_tim May 3 2007, 16:29:44 UTC
I'm willing to agree with you (and Morgan Freeman) in saying that long-term attention and emphasis of historical racisms do little to mend contemporary racial issues, and in fact harm 'race relations' in the maintenence of perceived racial distinctions (and for the record, I don't really think there needs to be a 'black history month' necessarily either), but I will caution you that there is a sort of slippery slope here.
Paying excess attention to 'racial issues' is a recipe for only further racism, but paying no attention to it either is also unacceptable. It's like when we were discussing affirmative action, there simply are ongoing racial inequalities that we need to actively attempt to resolve before we can realistically declare "Ok we have perfect equality... NOW!"

And on the topic of things like 'white history month', this isn't rocket science. There is such a thing as an ambient racial priviledge, and while it may not be a particularly good idea to support racial boundaries with activities like black history month, it is ( ... )

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