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ethniu

Asking for assistance

Sep 27, 2005 23:00

This is the post that I've entered into as many pro-choice and feminist communities as I could find. I'm going to keep looking for other places to post it as well. If anyone sees this and wants to link here, by all means go ahead ( Read more... )

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Alternative anonymous September 28 2005, 04:05:27 UTC

I am pro-choice as well, however, I am also prolife. I am sure that those seem to conflict but if you think about it for a second you will understand what I mean. checkout this website, I think it may help you out. itsaboutlove.org

---One grad student to another

Re: Alternative ethniu September 28 2005, 04:21:31 UTC

No, I understand. Pregnancy just isn't an option right now, between work and school and what I have to get done for the next year, there's no way that I would be able to carry this to term. Also, i've already tried a regimen of abortifacent herbs, so there would likely be severe birth defects.

Re: Alternative lisaerei September 28 2005, 15:33:33 UTC

pro-life means that you believe NO WOMAN should EVER be legally allowed to have an abortion. even if you personally couldn't have an abortion, but still support the option that other women should be able to have an abortion if they want them, that makes you pro-choice.

good luck with following through!
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Re: Alternative oakalyptus October 13 2005, 04:39:04 UTC

Actually, lisaerei, it is possible to be both pro-life and pro-choice. To say that pro-life means believing no woman should ever be legally allowed an abortion is just as simplistic as saying that pro-choice means believing that every woman should be able to use abortion as contraception as often as she wants. Indeed, some think that to be pro-choice you actually have to be pro-abortion. But there are grey areas for both camps.

Meanwhile, ethniu, I just want to defend the midwives in your area. The mistake both camps make is to assume that the other is cold and unfeeling. Not true. When a woman is pregnant with an un-wanted child, one is going to lose out. Either the woman carries the unwanted child to term, or the child dies. Pro-choice people direct their compassion toward the woman, and pro-life toward the baby. I'm sure there are some people who are cold in their beliefs, but most people (IMO) have compassionate reasons for their stance.

Re: Alternative lisaerei October 13 2005, 05:26:40 UTC

there is no "grey" area in abortion when legislation passes laws stating that no woman can legally have an abortion.

it IS that simple, you either support ANY womans right to legally have an abortion or you do not believe a woman has the right to choose to have an abortion.

the fact that you labeled abortion as a "form of contraception" and describing it as a "chid dies", is insulting and obvious that you are pro-life. Maybe i should start describing all orthodox christians "gay bashing xenophobes", but oh, THAT might be insulting, and yet calling abortion a "form of contraception" is not supposed to be. right.

i love the passive agressive nature of many pro-lifers (aka anti-choicers).

Re: Alternative oakalyptus October 13 2005, 06:28:58 UTC

You may call orthodox christians what you like - it won't bother me. Ethniu, sorry to hijack your post like this, but I can't let this go. Lisaerei, maybe you live in a black-and-white world, but mine has shades and colours. Yes, I count myself pro-life, because I believe life starts at conception. But that does not mean I want it legislated. I don't see the point in forcing a woman to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term, but if a woman has many abortions without learning to avoid pregnancy, then I will consider her a low-life. I did not refer to one abortion as a form of contraception, but the fact is that some women *do* use abortion as contraception. How on earth is that offensive? Unless you believe it's wrong to use it in that way ( ... )

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