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eska_rina October 7 2011, 19:10:01 UTC
Mmm, I'm not familiar with Fanon, though I had been thinking about looking at Spivak. Thanks for reccing me them, I'll check them out. Oh, and thanks for reminding me of Said's Culture and Imperialism. I haven't actually read it (bad me :( ).

Oh, JSTOR. I think that for around a billion years ago I was told something about how people at my uni could access it, but I've never used it, so yeah, if you could mail me the password you have been using, then that would be great :)

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eska_rina October 7 2011, 19:21:13 UTC
But oh that sounds like a nice PhD! :D Though now I get a bit nervous if you're working in this topic as a PhD subject :P - Mine is just a BA! It doesn't have to be that novel (though considering I care about the subject, I really do want to do it justice.)

But what exactly do you think you'll deal with in your PhD?

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krytella October 6 2011, 21:03:01 UTC
The main argument I hear against b2 is that, thanks to the influence of culture, people can't or aren't exercising free choice when they make this kind of decision. This argument is the same one used by anti-sex feminists in arguing that, say, women cannot really consent to work in pornography, or in extreme cases, cannot ever consent to sex with men (the "all sex is rape" argument). I don't agree with it, but it's one I've heard and it seems to bring together the far right and hard-line feminists.

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eska_rina October 7 2011, 17:14:38 UTC
Yeah, that's the main argument I've hard too - which is bullshit, and it really pisses me of when I hear feminists use it: first of all it removes the Muslim woman's ability to act and think for herself and it plays on this orienalistic trope about the Muslim/middle eastern women being a passive, receiving, well, blank canvas (and often in this argument I've seen a description of the Muslim man, which plays on the stereotype of the Muslim man being (sexually) aggressive and queer (not in the homosexual way, but as in having a sexuality which differ from "the norm", "the good, Western way to be sexual")). Second of all, if they really believed in women being unable to make this choice freely, then removing the possibility to cover their face in the public won't remove the course, but just the symptom of something being "wrong". It's like saying to women, with bruises after abuse, that they need to cover the bruises with make-up. It'll make the abuse more invisible, but it won't make it go away. How feminists can support this I don't ( ... )

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