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[escritoireazul]

I haven't talked about Supernatural much lately, mostly because I'm basically not watching this season. It's sitting on my dvr, but I'm so frustrated by season three that I just can't watch it yet. I've not rewatched seasons one or two, either, and in fact I loaned season one to nikitangel months ago and haven't bothered to get it back

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[pene]

It's like the whole act of kissing a man is enough of a sacrifice to warrant the geeks being saved. This combined with the devoted gay man in love with the straight man and the obvious gay man dies issues. So many reasons to shudder.

But I'm just reading about it, I didn't see it and haven't seen any eps of supernatural.

You're right about Bones. Perhaps Angela counts as a regular gay character? Though, of course, bisexuals don't count.

Off to get an Angela icon because I love her so.

[escritoireazul]

You're right about Bones. Perhaps Angela counts as a regular gay character? Though, of course, bisexuals don't count.

Probably she does, though there are categories for recurring gay characters.

Well, sort of. There isn't a category for individual episodes of shows with recurring gay characters, but there is this:

OUTSTANDING DRAMA SERIES
Brothers & Sisters (ABC)
The L Word (Showtime)
South of Nowhere (The N)
Torchwood (BBC America)
True Blood (HBO)

And maybe Bones can't compete with that, I don't know, I've only seen part of True Blood and nothing of any of the others.

But yeah, obviously bisexuals never count. They'll just choose men in the end, of course. Those pesky penises infect us and all.

[ruffwriter]

Eep. Yeah, I thought that episode was pretty problematic, too. This seems like it's probably more of a case of lack of selection than anything... which is still pretty depressing.

[escritoireazul]

That really is depressing, you're right.

Though, thinking about that, I worry that by nominating things which are so problematic, it just encourages further problematic media. Or maybe not encourages - validates? I'll have to think about this more. I mean, yes, I'm very aware of the lack of options, but I'm not sure that means I want to reward shows just because they include a gay character at all, no matter how problematic.

(Plus, I cringe at the thought of what some of the fandom might use this to justify when the next race/gender/sexuality discussion comes up.)

[lilacsigil]

Sarah Connor Chronicles had a terrific trans* character, for whom being a transwoman was not just part of the plot, but a survival mechanism and a force for humanity and good. I was really astonished and delighted. Maybe the dates didn't line up for that one? But SPN...um. At least it wasn't an Afterschool Special?

[escritoireazul]

Which season of SCC had the trans* character? I've only seen parts of last season, but this season is sitting on my dvr waiting for me. (This time simply because I haven't had time to watch it, not because I'm boycotting it like Supernatural.) It frustrates me that it wasn't nominated, then, and this crap was.

[lilacsigil]

It was the last episode before the break - season 2, episode 13. It's not 100% good, but it's head and shoulders above the usual representation of trans* characters on network TV.

[st_aurafina]

I'm confused, too - I don't feel particularly comfortable with the mocking tone of the show whenever it was dealing with Corbett. I'm surprised that it could be seen as a positive portrayal at all.

And shame on them, for ignoring Bones, and Sarah Connor Chronicles. The Bones episode, where Angela talks to Booth, and we find out about Booth's aunt is one of my favourite things I've seen this year.

[sanj]

Bleah. Definitely fail. It was a total celluloid closet episode -- the only saving grace being that Sam and Dean kind of called the Ghostfacers on it when they screened the footage.

Sigh.