Nov 18, 2004 06:05
Melfice Darkmage: huh, I never knew Malice Mizer actually broke up
DJ Haruko: You knew that band?
Melfice Darkmage: Yeah. I have a few songs by them
DJ Haruko: Huh, awesome
Melfice Darkmage: thats a shame. they had one of the most interesting things going I've seen in a long
time, band-wise
DJ Haruko: Alot of things from Japan are rather interesting. Many people say that the Japanese are nothing but great imitators, but instead I tend to believe they take what we do, rework it in a Japanese way, and present it in ways we couldn't imagine.
Melfice Darkmage: Yeah. Thing is they aren't immitators, they're doers. The U.S. may come up with ideas, but it's the Japanese that actually put the ideas to work and produce something.
DJ Haruko: exactly
DJ Haruko: I get rather irked at people (*ahemDanarchycough*) who believe Japan is nothing but a zany place filled with perverts, giant robots, and schoolgirls. Japan is a place where creativity still runs rampent.
DJ Haruko: lmao (in an interview with Al Jourgensen of Ministry): What's the wackiest thing you ever did to try and get a gig or sell a record?
Well, I can’t think of something “wacky” I did to get a gig or sell a record, but when Warner Brothers pulled my tour support on one of my Ministry tours, I jerked off into a ziplock and overnighted it to our label rep at Warners and threatened to keep overnighting bodily fluids from either me or one of the band or crew members until I got my tour support back. I got it back.
Melfice Darkmage: Yeah. What's America? Nothing but the ruins and spoils of a land trying to be one of conformity.
DJ Haruko: Damn right
DJ Haruko: We watched a movie today which absolutely blew my mind. It's called Gemini, and is done by the same dude who did Tetsuo The Ironman (which I never saw). The story was oddly like an Edgar Allan Poe story, but was very psychologically twisting in a Japanese way. I walked away from it going, "Wow...that's the last tiem I watch American movies for depth", and truely feeling I got something from it.
DJ Haruko: Edogawa Ranpo (who's name is a Japanese rendition of Edgar Allan Poe) wrote it. If you ever saw the anime "Detective Conan", he did that as well.
Melfice Darkmage: I think alot of things Americans say about the japanese are plain and simple from contempt and jealousy at the fact that we nuked the poor country twice and helped them rebuild and now they can out do us in everyway that actually matters, intelligence-wise. America was a big deal because it gave people freedom. Well what's the big deal now? You have freedom in Canada, Japan, and several other places. You have no more freedom here than you do in other countries around the world. If anything you could probably have more freedom elsewhere. America is down to being no more than a huge gimmick that almost the entire rest of the world hates for rearing it's ugly head all over the place trying to make itself look important to others so other places don't forget how "great" America is.
DJ Haruko: heh, gimmick is just about the best way I've heard it described in quite a while. And gimmick it truely is.
Melfice Darkmage: aye
DJ Haruko: OMG, I can download Dead or Alive 1
DJ Haruko: like, the movie
Melfice Darkmage: And I swear to god if anyone ever gives me shit about being unpatriotic I will go off on them. Patriotism is about respect for something, and respect is to be earned. As a country, the people here, and those who lead it, deter any respect I could ever possibly want to give to them. And that goes back to what I said about America being nothing more than a huge gimmick. You know what America is? The mut country of the world that will accept anyone. That's why it's so popular. Because of the justice system here and the way our government runs, you have the freedom of being let go on murder if you lie well enough and have a good enough allaby and coverup. America is the most fucked up country in the world (if no the most ignornant as well).
DJ Haruko: It's the oddball of the world, that's for sure. We're actually the only one who sticks out. We are literally the ugly duckling.
Melfice Darkmage: Yeah. We stick out because we're the outcast. No one else wants anything to do with us. Look what happens when they do (Iraq). We're like an african american standing in the middle of a group of KKK members. Everyone hates us and either wants us dead or doesn't want anything to do with us, and we stick out like a guy in shorts with a boner.
DJ Haruko: lol
DJ Haruko: One of America's problem is the lack of education on such issues. We're squelching our own future.
Melfice Darkmage: Thing is, I think everyone, even the democrats, knew Bush was going to win the election. It was just too obvious. People are stupid, and they get taken advantage of. The problem is they'll never realize it until it's too late and there's nothing they can do about it. Now we have Bush for another 4 years running a country at's already a disasterpiece. Raised to be stupid, taught to be nothing at all. It's way too easy to ignore the facts and pretend you don't know things that are there, like the fact that there are NO WMD's in Iraq and never were (gee Bush supporters, I guess it'd kill you to realize your beloved president lied to you, eh?). Ignorance is bliss, plain and simple. What you don't know won't hurt you. But the problem is. is that eventually it does, and people just don't see that. I've said it so many times, but people are so wrapped up in their own lives that they find it easier to be ignorant to things than come to terms with them, especially in the outside world. Then something happens and they're pushed out of the comfortable place they've made for themselves, their own little world where all they have to worry about are everyday things. Then their life is in ruins and they panic. The people set themselves up for shit to happen. Almost everything, everything that happens in a person's life that they don't want to happen branches from some sort of ignorance or failure to pay attention to something.