California is broke, along with almost every other state. What other alternative is there to keep it open and viable (i am asking honestly so dont yell at me) since i dont know the situation.
Thats about the same price structure as all the botanical gardens here in NY.
Can I suggest that the solution requires a more fundamental re-thinking. Your comment suggests that the status quo -- California is broke -- is simply a fact over which people have no control, so your question is perfectly logical: the state has no money, so the people will have to pay for the park directly, n'est pas?
But perhaps the more important question is, why would a state as big and prosperous as California be broke? Surely this is because of a long series of deliberate decisions by elected officials, and of course, decisions by the people who elected them. When someone starts from an assumption that government and taxation are both bad things, he or she will quickly recognize that cutting taxes forces governments to become smaller, to narrow the scope of what they are able to do. But then they can shift the responsibility for this shortfall by saying -- accurately -- that they have no money to pay for parks. Or schools. Or roads. Or whatever other public service they decide is not essential
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The reason i ask is because its easy to point fingers, or say hell no we wont pay, but that never solves the short term issue. The short term issue (and possibly long term) is simply it costs money to run these things
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what's next, a 5$ entry charge at the door to the Library?
For the record, this department's personnel function have been grossly mismanaged for decades- a recent audit found groundskeeprs and the like were where they were supposed to be only 56% of the time. yup- 44% of the time AWOL.
On a larger front, the creeping privatization of public property - my characterization, not his... is something we have seen more than enough of. By the way, your NYC Gardens have extensive greenhouses- this garden has Zero. there's already another greenhouse with a 5$ charge 10 minutes away.
See there you go making asumptions. there are many smaller Gardens here that do not have Green houses, but just gardens. There is much more to New York State Then the Brooklyn Botanical Gardens.
I also spoke of NY State, not NYC. i have Gardens not too far away from me here in Nassau County that charge a similar fee structure.
Creeping privitization vs the loss of the property, which does happen. We are still catching up from the abdonement and in some cases loss of the properties in the 70's fiscal crises, so i know what it is like to loose valuble and irreplaceable properties. We are still loosing Estates (building long ago abdoned) but grand grounds since there is no money to run them.
It seems to me that the mismanegement should be addressed as loudly if not louder then the potential fees.
Thats about the same price structure as all the botanical gardens here in NY.
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But perhaps the more important question is, why would a state as big and prosperous as California be broke? Surely this is because of a long series of deliberate decisions by elected officials, and of course, decisions by the people who elected them. When someone starts from an assumption that government and taxation are both bad things, he or she will quickly recognize that cutting taxes forces governments to become smaller, to narrow the scope of what they are able to do. But then they can shift the responsibility for this shortfall by saying -- accurately -- that they have no money to pay for parks. Or schools. Or roads. Or whatever other public service they decide is not essential ( ... )
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For the record, this department's personnel function have been grossly mismanaged for decades- a recent audit found groundskeeprs and the like were where they were supposed to be only 56% of the time. yup- 44% of the time AWOL.
On a larger front, the creeping privatization of public property - my characterization, not his... is something we have seen more than enough of. By the way, your NYC Gardens have extensive greenhouses- this garden has Zero. there's already another greenhouse with a 5$ charge 10 minutes away.
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I also spoke of NY State, not NYC. i have Gardens not too far away from me here in Nassau County that charge a similar fee structure.
Creeping privitization vs the loss of the property, which does happen. We are still catching up from the abdonement and in some cases loss of the properties in the 70's fiscal crises, so i know what it is like to loose valuble and irreplaceable properties. We are still loosing Estates (building long ago abdoned) but grand grounds since there is no money to run them.
It seems to me that the mismanegement should be addressed as loudly if not louder then the potential fees.
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