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[epicflailer]

GUESS WHO FINALLY GOT AROUND TO WATCHING INCEPTION TODAY!? TWICE. WITH A TWO HOUR INTERVAL BETWEEN THE VIEWINGS?

yeah.

i came out of the theatre with a migraine the first time, and kind of swayed unsteadily on my feet the second. that was some pretty heavy shit, y'all.

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[starafar]

but do i think he's doing too much of the same thing
yes, yes. this.

i confused tom hardy with david wenham a lot
THAT IS WHO HE LOOKS LIKE, OMG.

i think the thing about the kick not waking them on the first level was because they were sedated? and cobb, idk. time works in strange ways down there.

[epicflailer]

lmfao, ikr. like i miss him doing stuff like what's eating gilbert grape and then the aviator and then the departed, you know? I MISS HIS RANGE. i know he has it!

AND YES THAT IS WHO. towards the end i was like OMG IT SO HAS TO BE HIM, IDEK. the resemblance is uncanny!

and okay, this confuses me because isn't the falling supposed to wake them? like, yusof made the concoction so that falling WOULD wake them, no matter what! i'm confused.

[starafar]

wait, the kick as in the van hitting the water, right? isn't it because of the time multiplier whatever, so while the kick was inevitable, it hadn't yet happened at the deeper levels?

re: why didn't they just kill themselves once, i think it's because they were already running out of time in limbo, so when they died in limbo, like when ariadne jumped, she got taken back to the fortress, which then blew up, taking them back to the hotel, where the lift hit the bottom of the shaft, which took them back to the van, which hit the water, which took them back to the plane. so it's like a cascade effect? presumably if it happened earlier she would have spent more time at the fortress before it blew up and took them up a level.

[epicflailer]

no there were two kicks, right? freefalling, and then hitting the water. the freefalling should've woken yusof up, regardless of the rest, AND i just realized they should have just flung saito off a bridge when he started bleeding to wake him up, if that was going to be the solution. get what i mean?

and no, i get this part about limbo, but what i mean is why didn't everyone go to limbo and then just kill themselves once? cos clearly cobb and saito only had to do it once. they didn't make it back for all those levels. so if everyone had just gone to limbo, wouldn't it have made it easier? no need for all the free-falling in all the other levels.

[starafar]

oh, wait. yusef freefalling wouldn't have woken him from anything, because he wasn't in the hotel! er. right?

but they couldn't have flung saito off the bride because he was still sedated, wasn't he? he'd just have gone a level deeper.

i.... dk. maybe they were worried that people would lose touch with reality in limbo? idk. also re: why saito's so much older - is it because the difference is that cobb was aware that he was in limbo, but saito wasn't? because cobb had been there before? like when he was there with mal and stuff, he got real old, right? LOLOL.

[epicflailer]

i--what? isn't freefalling on a level supposed to wake you up on the level above that? i mean, that's the impression i got. otherwise why would you have to freefall in limbo to wake up in the third level? couldn't they just freefall you in the third level to wake you up from limbo? ...or am i missing something?

and yeah, i read about that whole knowledge is power theory too, and totally don't buy into it. because a) it sounds retarded, b) it's just like them saying oh BECAUSE IT'S LIMBO, which i don't want to accept; i like to think the script was written better than that, and c) knowing about shit doesn't seem to excuse them from anything else, so why aging? and the thing about losing touch with reality in limbo is moot, because they would've been with cobb and they all would've known they were in limbo, not reality. ie. they could've all just killed themselves in one clean shot like cobb and saito.

[starafar]

i think you have to be freefalling on the level ~above, so yusef would have to be freefalling in reality. like when they did those tests, they'd have arthur's chair tipping over irl to bring him back to reality.

then i guess we'll have to accept that that little amount of time saito spent in limbo before cobb got there was sufficient for him to have aged decades, lol.

[epicflailer]

ohhhhhhh. oh wow, that makes so much more sense. EXCEPT. why couldn't they wake the dudes up from the third level with the whole free-falling thing, then? idgi. and does this mean that once they accessed the deepest level and succeeded, all the army people would be called off? because otherwise they'd still be chased, right? or, hmm, maybe they were only chased that first time because the train totally fucked up the dream world? it's so weird.

auuuuuuuugh, dnw to accept that the scriptwriter maybe screwed up. /o\

[starafar]

because they were in zero grav in the hotel? so arthur created the lift thing? i think. the original plan was to blow out the room below theirs, presumably so they'd fall, i think. so he blasted the lift to create movement downwards (upwards? i can't remember) to simulate falling.

the army people never really disappeared? the train was cobb's doing, not fischer's defenses.

[epicflailer]

lololol i don't think my questions got across right. i meant why did they have to have a kick in limbo if they could just be woken up by a kick at level 3?

and i know the train was cobb, that's why i was like maybe that's why fischer's projections started to fuck with him, because he was messing up the world so much. but maybe not. and if the army people never disappeared - which i figured they didn't - that's what makes me go ?!?!?!?! because cobb said in the beginning that if they just spent the week on the first level they'd all be dead by the end of the week. BUT, they finished the mission so quickly that they'd still have to be on the first level like sitting ducks for the rest of the week once they woke up. so where's the smart plan in that?!

[starafar]

ohh! i... have no idea? i think i read something somewhere that with this sedative you can only be awoken by a kick in both the upper level and the level you're at? so like when they hit the first kick in the van, arthur didn't awaken because in the hotel he wasn't yet freefalling. i think. that was someone's alternate theory as to why people are jumping off buildings right, left, and centre.

i thought they were running out of time, not finished the mission quickly?

[epicflailer]

hmm. i guess that could make sense. they totally should've explained that in the show then. fail, nolan.

and they were running out of time to make it for the kick, not in general. remember? they said the only way to get out of the mess would be to finish the mission asap. but asap means they still have plenty of time to sit tight on level 1. unless the soldiers (aka fischer's defenses) have been torn down. goddamn, show.

[starafar]

ohhhh. maybe it's cos fischer had... accepted it? or they had successfully completed inception, so bye bye bad guys? IDEK NAT.

[epicflailer]

i guess. BUT IT IS SO -- AUGH. D: