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Mar 21, 2003 23:09



Whether or not folks like the fact we're at war, we are.

However,
As has been mentioned at great lengths by some..

There is no reason what-so-ever for our troops to be degraded.

More so,
If anything,
U.S. civilians have the duty of supporting the Men and Women of the U.S. Forces ( Read more... )

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enigmaticpariah March 22 2003, 17:44:08 UTC
"you said "Whether or not folks like the fact we're at war, we are."
so those who don't like it should help out? bushwah.. duty is something best kept in the military and away from civilians.. it's called freedom and rights.. things that america's supposed to be big on."
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Freedom and Rights.
Yes, we do happen to be big on these.
And not just for our country, but, others as well.
[Thusly, the situation at hand.]
However;
Who is any civilian to take his/her rights, and use them against the very people that are protecting them, as well as helped to established them?
The phrase "Don't Rock The Boat ... Especially When You're In It." comes to mind.

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As far as the last war goes..
It's the same in any war.
The same with any country.
Nearly every war can be considered to have began for "Utterly Stupid" reasons. It's all circumstance. Loosely based, at that.

Maybe it was the fact I was raised by Veterans of the U.S. Navy.
Maybe it's that I'm just a little off center, or my thoughts/visions are skewed.
Either way,
EVERY American has a certain level of duty. And towards each branch of City, State and Nation. Including the fact that some feel obligated to join the ranks of Men [And Women] In Arms.

If anyone wants to protest; far be it from me to stop them.
Shoot off towards Politicians. Fire away at the Government.
What need is there [or good?] to belittle those who are only doing their job, as I would go to the shop each day?

Though,
I'm sure some views are biased,
As I know you despise all wordly governments, as it is..
Especially the U.S.
*ponders*

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aimlesswonderer March 22 2003, 18:41:04 UTC
whatever to the rest.. i'm sure being brought up veterans is what's set your point of view on all this.. and i'll leave that at that..

how you know i hate all worldly governments is beyond me, i don't know a single thing about almost all of said governments.. you're right on the especially america though.. few people like a bully, a hypocrite, or a nosey bastard.

you don't help a country by blowing up selected parts of it.

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So ... are you saying that if you oppose the actions that atrax_narcissus March 23 2003, 12:28:18 UTC
the leaders choose, it's OK to take it out on the workers?

So if say ... a grade school teacher was leading her class in an excercise to learn to walk like a duck & you didn't like ducks, it would be ok to shoot the children instead of approaching the teacher? Or if you worked for an office where the boss decided to raise the prices, it would be ok for a client to come in & attack YOU for it?

If you don't like the gov't & actions, fine ... protest ... people have died for the right for you to do so ... take it up with the GOV'T, not the soldiers! Yes, they ARE responsible for their own conduct under highly stressful situations & if they violate that ... that's something different. But if you are mad at them simply becase they are doing what they are told, then I have a problem with that.

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Re: So ... are you saying that if you oppose the actions that aimlesswonderer March 23 2003, 13:34:09 UTC
that's... a typical american approach.. if i didn't like ducks, i woudln't shoot the fucking class.. i just wouldn't participate.. when.. did i say we should.. attack the soldiers.. ???? when.. did i say we should hate them... ??

you got it allll wrong.. i've got nothing against the soldiers.. they're just following orders.. the higher up ranks of the military maybe.. but they're even just following orders. i don't like bush. i don't like his administration. that's it.

the only duty the american people have is to do their job to keep the economy going.. the soldiers are doing their job.. it was their choice to be a soldier. i've gotta say.. that first paragraph makes you look criminally insane and has nothing to do with what i'm talking about.. see my first paragraph..

i'm saying it's fucking bullshit that every american has a DUTY to help the military. i'm not saying everybody has to hate what's going on.. apparently at least 75% of you like this war.. i have to wonder how many of that 75% know all the facts.. but whatever.. i'm not saying don't help the military.. i'm saying it's a choice.. that's it.. that's my main point.. that the people don't HAVE to help the military.. duty makes it sound like you do. that's it amigo.

but... by what you're saying.. lemme get this straight.. lets say i don't like what's going on.. as seems to be the case. i go out 'n protest 'n stuff.. voice my opinion to the government.. then turn around and send letters the soldiers saying "great job, what you're doing over there.. we support you.. blah blah blah..." WTF. i'm not saying send hate letters to the troops.. those would be cencored out before they reached the soldiers anyway.

ya know.. it's funny that you sould say "if you are mad at them simply becase they are doing what they are told, then I have a problem with that." because in his ultimatum, bush said that he will not accept the excuse "we were just following orders" from iraqi soldiers.. funny.. but not in a ha ha way.

in summary. i. have. nothing. against. the. soldiers. if they didn't do, somebody else would.. i don't like the fact that it's happening at all.. then again.. daddy's hit list needs to be finished.

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_cole_ March 24 2003, 14:21:29 UTC
"Freedom and Rights.
Yes, we do happen to be big on these.
And not just for our country, but, others as well.
[Thusly, the situation at hand.]"

This has nothing what so ever to do with "freedom and rights" this is all about oil (you know that funny black stuff you americans are so willing to kill for) Invading Iraq was just another way for bush and his friends to get rich, just like sellig Iraq all there weapons was a way to get rich. Bush's daddy put Sadam in power, and sold Sadam weapons, now Bush jr is going to kick Sadam out, put in a puppet administration and rob Iraq of all its oil.
America cares nothing for "freedom" and it definitly does not care for other countries, America only cares about making money, and trying to control the rest of the world. Most 3'rd world countries never develop because America does not want them to (hey you need somone to make 500$ nikie jackets for 5 cents a day) If America let 3'rd world countries develop then the swetshops would cost more to run (have to keep them hidden or bribe more people) or maby *gasp* they would have to pay people a fair amount of money for the work they do.
This war with Iraq is just another way of making money, weapons need to be made, the price of advertising goes up because more poeple are reading newspapers and watching tv exc exc. In all of American history war has alwase been the biggest money maker for you. But best of all (for your curent "leader" (i'll take off the quotations when you actualy vote one in)) war is the best way of geting the American sheep- err people to fall in line shut there mouths and follow orders.

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