umm ok so are you saying that we should still have slavery? bc the only way we stopped it was through government force. what about segregation? if the courts hasn't done anything there wouldn't have been any other steps. women's voting rights? abortion rights? religious freedom? to change the people so that our country is equal you have to use the government. the governement is there to procect the minority (be it race, religious, gender, socioeconomics). people don't just decided all of a sudden to let their preducices go, let someone else live just like they do. that's how shit happens. and people can THINK whatever they want in this country, they can BELIEVE whatever they choose but they can't ACT however they want. current civil rights movements want equality, just like they did thirty years ago, just like they did 80 years ago. just because you may not think something is right, doesn't mean you can impose it on others, sure, think what you want; but that doesn't mean that if you think something IS right that you should
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i am specifically advocating the complete abolishment of slavery. the government has no right to hold business owners as slaves by making them pay whatever amount it has decided on. by what right, by what authority? a business should and must have complete discretion over its funds, or else it is owned by the state, no matter to what degree it is controlled. you are correct when you say that it is the governments responsibility to protect minorities. bear in mind, the smallest minority is the individual. the government is here to protect its individual citizens from physical violence and harm, not the prejudices of others (so long as those prejudices do not come to physical violence or coercion (such as slavery. the government stepped in, not to protect black people, but to protect individuals
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oh but james, the government was not designed to protect indiviuals. i know, we wish it were, and i've argued many times that it should but american political thought tends towards the minority group. i wish the government gave a shit about the individual but the way it is, we can only work within groups for protection
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the american government WAS designed to protect individuals. but you're right when you say that (current) american political thought tends towards the minority group. but there is no such thing as rights that a group has which an individual does not. i do not believe that minorities should receive a benefit when it comes to getting into college (the u of m case.) but businesses have the right to provide or refuse service to whomever they wish. also, education should be completely privatized, because when a semi-private business (a state university) provides a service to some and not to all, there is a conflict of interests
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an "organism" dependent on the mother and therefore a "part of the mothers body." what kind of organism? is it a bacteria, fungi, protist, or a plant? because you obviously won't call it an animal. why isn't it an animal, i ask you (and bear in mind, when i refer to it as an animal, i assume you know i mean a human.) perhaps you believe it to be a parasite? afterall, it relies on the mothers body for nutrients, at the expense of the mother, right? it is a parasite, right, because it has no relation whatsoever to the mother, she caught it while swimming or working in a hospital. right
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dude why are you mocking me? i don't see a fetus as a kid. get over it. it's not fully human yet, it doesn't have a concience, it can't live without the mothers body or some machine, it's not a baby in my eyes. yeah i know you don't see it the same, like i said we aren't gonna see it the same, oh well. yeah it is human cells but it isn't human.
and i would respond to the rest but it's been a long week and i have shit to do, don't you?
my apologies for mocking you, but i felt that i had to goad you to get you to respond (i'm impatient). but i have to ask, when does it become fully human? when it has a conscience? that means that you aren't fully human until you're several years old. or is it when you can live on your own? that, again, is not until you're several years old. so should women have the right to kill their babies until they can demonstate a knowledge of right and wrong, or the ability to fend for themselves?
i ask that you respond to the rest as soon as possible. i believe i have valid points, and you believe they are not. i have defended my position, you have not responded. please don't just give up. and yes, i have things to do, but this is an important discussion.
i'm not saying that you don't have valid points, i'm just saying that we aren't going to see eye to eye about it. i understand the position of those who are "pro-life" i just happen to disagree. at the moment i have too much homework/MA work/programs/vagina monologues/residents' problems to deal with for me to actually ponder a way to convey what i'm thinking onto this page. i'm sorry, but i really don't have the time right now, you are more than welcome to AIM me next weekend and i should have more free time but at the moment i really do have other things that are higher on my list of priorities.
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and i would respond to the rest but it's been a long week and i have shit to do, don't you?
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i ask that you respond to the rest as soon as possible. i believe i have valid points, and you believe they are not. i have defended my position, you have not responded. please don't just give up. and yes, i have things to do, but this is an important discussion.
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spending 10 minutes typing a response is not going to break your schedule. i will IM you sometime.
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