The Ultimate List of Shadiest People in ASUCD

[emosnail]

   In my five years of involvement in ASUCD, I have seen a lot of extremely shady antics. As I’ve mentioned before, I do not believe power corrupts, I believe power allows the already-prone-to-corruption to show themselves. There are a lot of scandals in real government, and students love to point these out - but what most people don’t realize is

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[oeaschwab]

I guess I should be happy to have made no lists of yours since Ostrowski has me on about 5.

The retroactive solution was very controversial, and whether or not you agreed with it, I fully believe everyone had the best intentions, on both sides. So I am going to second Rob's assertion that Kristin should not be on the list. And how are Ackerman, Sanders and Lloyd lower on the list than Peake? Peake retracted his statement that Markevich should be fired and pulled his call for a closed session. I also would have put Jon as #1 on exemplary, no offense Mattie :).

[emosnail]

The Retroactive solution issue was so much more than just trying to deal with the succession crisis, there was also the issue of retreating behind closed doors to write legislation in secrecy and get ultra defensive about making sure they succeeded into office. And to go above and beyond all that to actually call for the impeachment of people who disagreed is outragious, and I stand behind my placement of Birdsall. Its not a personal vendetta, I actually had I nice conversation with her at a party immediately afterwords -I think Kristy even thought I was flirting with her- the point is that I do not take it personally, I don't take any of this personally. Nevertheless, calling for the impeachment of people because they disagree with you is outragious.

[emosnail]

Oh an as to Ackerman, Sanders and Lloyd versus Peake ... well the worst Lloyd actually did was come up with the retroactive solution, the worst Sanders did was change parties (which really I wouldn't call terribly condemnable), and Ackerman, well, he just tried not to resign, which is just self-interest ... whereas what Peake did, aspiring to persecute someone for their beliefs, I believe is much worse than simply trying to preserve oneself in office. While its true Peake didn't go through with it, in the week prior to receiving threats of legal action and such he was all about it. We can't say for certain he would have gone through with it if he hadn't realized it was illegal, but the fact that he at any point thought it was an excellent idea shows that he was operating with a broken moral compass.

[oeaschwab]

Broken moral compass? Kris, I would expect you to understand a situation before you apply commentary. I mean that is usually a good policy. But hey, thats just me.

The idea to call the closed session was not my idea. I was down for talking about if Pete's handling of the situation (not the fact he was an idiot in the first place) rendered him unable to perform in his duties. Have I made some stupid mistakes? Sure. But I think I am not too shady.

[emosnail]

Hm. But did you or did you not at some point fully support bringing him to closed session?