Infused with Moral Outrage

Dec 11, 2017 23:39


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lookfar December 11 2017, 13:12:48 UTC
Ah hah, the grumpy old man icon!

I agree with you about misrepresenting a product - or perhaps I mean "I feel as you do" - and I remember the Chinese baby apple juice scandal. Not sure I agree with you about flavoring honey. Surely no one thinks that ginger honey is made by letting the bees gather nectar in the ginger fields, any more than chocolate milk comes from chocolate cows.

Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to crush the last beautiful idea of your childhood.

I think anyone would know that something had been added to the honey but it's not really adulteration if the point is not to fool the consumer.

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emo_snal December 11 2017, 13:17:07 UTC
You say that but don't they consistently do surveys and find like 30% of respondants DO think chocolate milk comes from brown cows? And I do realize my objection is a bit irrational but it's just a deeply held professional horror of putting anything at all in honey.

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lookfar December 13 2017, 18:40:03 UTC
More personal than rational, then. Which is perfectly okay.

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emo_snal December 11 2017, 13:17:44 UTC
oh and chinese baby apple juice?

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wantedonvoyage December 11 2017, 13:39:46 UTC
I don't have an example, really, but I do agree with you.

We drink a product called Spindrift which is basically seltzer with a minute amount of fruit juice in it. They are the only brand we've found that uses real juice and only juice. I got guilted into trying a competing product (LaCroix) which--upon investigation--contains seltzer and "natural flavors". It's not as good and I resent the notion that I don't know what "natural flavors" means. Anything that came from this planet can be marketed as "natural" but that doesn't mean I want to drink it.

Also, given the care that goes into your craft, I can totally see why you wouldn't want to introduce anything to it that wasn't made with the same effort. What good is "organic local honey" if you mix it with cheap chocolate that has 25 dubiously-sourced ingredients?

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emo_snal December 12 2017, 11:30:15 UTC
Is LaCroix also the brand that has ridiculously overpriced bottled water?

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wantedonvoyage December 12 2017, 14:51:32 UTC
Is LaCroix also the brand that has ridiculously overpriced bottled water?

LOL there's only one?

I don't know but this drink is not expensive... I think I got three cases (8 cans) for $10. Spindrift commands a little more at about $6 for a box of 8.

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pondhopper December 11 2017, 15:21:05 UTC
How do you feel about someone buying pure honey and doing their own infusing at home ( ... )

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emo_snal December 12 2017, 11:32:18 UTC
There was a hubbub in the industry here because one of the biggest Australian honey companies is apparently buying Chinese honey and mixing it with Australian honey and same thing, putting it on the shelves in a manner where it appears to be australian honey unless you look very very carefully.

Hmm I guess I need to visit Spain and try your famous ham (:

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scripsi December 11 2017, 20:10:15 UTC
And that is why I buy my honey from my friend the Beekeeper. :)

I Think putting fruits in alcohol was originally meant to preserve the fruit, not to flavour the alcohol.

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emo_snal December 12 2017, 11:35:17 UTC
Always the best way to get your honey!

Hmm and yes I suppose it would preserve the fruit, but then one wouldn't dry them out before using them for osmething would they? So one would later consume very alcoholic fruit?

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scripsi December 13 2017, 13:44:55 UTC
Oh yes, very alcoholic fruit. To preserve fruit like this has gone out of style in Sweden, but when my Mum was a kid this kind of fruit was served as dessert with whipped cream. Obviously only for adults. :) And as it was considered food even my grandparent's, who didn't drink, ate it.

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wpadmirer December 12 2017, 00:00:50 UTC
Oh, don't get me started about plays! I'm still being teased by Pat for my reaction to seeing a badly written play in NYC. (It is truly a terrible play!)

So I think we all have pride in our particular "thing" and are annoyed to enraged by people fucking it up with some half-assed go at it.

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emo_snal December 12 2017, 00:32:18 UTC
I'm actually quite curious to hear your bad play rant :-D

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