Hopefully I'm not intruding, but after reading this I found it impossible to keep my mouth shut. (Oh yes, you know what kind of text I keep sprouting every waking hour. When I'm not totally drained, that is.)
Couples... couples are very "ouch" to me. I remember - and I'm sure some people remember - how I used to be very timid about anyone touching me or even praising me. :P I had no idea relationships could be that complex and simple at the same time, which totally aggravated me. Life's horrible and then you realize you're the one making it horrible. Or at least that's what happened with me. You see, I'm quite passive in a relationship. I'm not that bold as my present day demeanour might well suggest, and that... well.
I had a pause somewhere in the middle, some... what, nine months? Nine months. Freedom. Sure. You want it in a relationship soon, when you realize that you don't want that much attention - and vice versa when you're single. Admittedly, dearies, it is a very annoying little runt. Love, that is.
Too bad people are too fond of it, then.
Threesomes... well, there's something. Provided the feeling truly is mutual, it can be another part of heaven. Could be hell too, but it all sums up into a relationship with more freedom. (Then again, I don't feel the need to flirt with everyone anymore - which is very good. Me, content? Hah.) And the reason why is that you have to have an open mind for the relationship to begin in the first place.
And mind you, two guys and one girl is much better than two girls and one lad. (Don't look at me like that. It's true.)
What a rant. I'll put it brief, though: some people fall in love easier than others. I've seen people who have crushes on almost everyone they meet, and then there's people like me, who feel the need for something at times and try their best to find that something, only to mess up - people who don't fall in love easily and try to correct it. (Generally a bad idea.) What I'm trying to say is that... uh... well. In some very strange way I might even understand what you're talking about.
You're not intruding. :) Feel free to comment. It's interesting to read people's thoughts.
I guess I'm one of those who have crushes easily. At least, I used to be (haven't had one for a year, at least) though I almost never did anything about it, just watched the objects of my crushes from afar. But I don't think I've ever really fallen in love. I thought I loved Sami and Petri at the time, but I'm not so sure that I did anymore. Hugging and kissing them was nice, but not a mind-blowing experience. I'd like to think that with the right person, it would be more than just nice.
But enough of that. I'm too scared to start a relationship with anyone again and besides, I think that I have so good friends that I don't need anything else. But it was fun to cuddle with you, though. ;)
*runs away before you or Emily smack her on the head*
Honey, I've been waiting for you to say something ever since you appeared at Yocchan's journal. *grin* But then you didn't and I thought I'd scared you away. *shrug* Anyways, this is an internet livejournal, so it's not really supposed to be private. I am more than happy to "hear" your opinions. ^^
And now to the point. Well. I'm a little confused here. Do you actually think you've been in love? Are in love? Because to me "love" is really _the thing_... I mean, something quite unique and sincere. Not just something that lasted for a half a year. Then again, I've never even had a small crush so I don't know if I have a right to talk about it as if I knew something.
Couples... Are a definite yikes to me. Hey, I'm glad you've gotten over your problems. Really. But I haven't. I really have not ever fallen in love. Or had a crush. Or anything. I like people being close to me, but if I start to think about it I feel like screaming. And I'm scared. Bloody scared. I just can't not be, it's not that simple. I don't know if I want a relationship, or could even ever be in one, but seeing couples makes me feel depressed. And a freak.
Now, Yocchan, don't say a word about being sorry that you were with Z or Sciry. I don't want to take responsibility of you being single. Sorry, but I don't want any commitments of singlehood, not from you and not from me. Even a thing like that makes me feel my freedom is being threatened. So I'm sorry, but that's the way I am. No half-hearted promises that can be easily broken. --.--
Threesomes I've never really thought about. That one time we were talking about it, I was just thinking about the situation in bed, not as in having a real relationship. My guess is that such a thing would be fun at first, but could easily evolve into something painful. Emotions are tricky that way.
I wonder if it's really love people are too fond of. More like affection, acceptance and tenderness - and in my opinion all those three don't guarantee there's love. But I guess it's just a matter of definition. *shrug*
Sorry if I sound like a whiny, cynical little bitch, but hey, everybody hurts sometimes.
I have - and it can last for a short time, as well. Say, 6 months, but it's always up to your own expectations and your SO's traits. The bad thing about relationships is that you really start to know the other only after you start to spend more time with hir, and sometimes sie doesn't seem... well... what you thought sie was.
But those are my personal thoughts on that matter, which shouldn't mean squat to you. *Nod.*
The definition of love is silly in itself - it is affection, acceptance and tenderness, all mixed up into one concept. It has a different tone, too, somehow... *Shrugs.* Maybe because getting affection, acceptance and tenderness is looked upon as something better left for relationships? It's one of these aggravating ethical questions.
I mean really. How do you look upon someone cuddling with everyone and then having... (no, wait, that was me.) Uh. I'll rephrase that... entirely.
What's it like when you see two of your friends sitting on the same chair, or rather, the other sitting on the other's lap? What do you see? Do you automatically surmise that they are in love or attracted to each other, especially if they seem a bit cuddly?
If you're cynical, then I suppose I'm simply a bit too philosophical at the moment. >_
Cuddling with a friend is so good because you get the touch and maybe affection and tenderness too without having to make any commitments. You know you'll still be just friends afterwards and your freedom isn't threatened. At least, that's why I like it. E.g. Almena sat on my lap in RopeCon but it didn't mean that we were madly in love or in any way attracted to each other. It would have been the same if it had been a boy instead of Almie.
A good one. I could start cuddling with people again just for the sake of the confusion that ensues. Mwahaha.
(Badges to get from next year's RopeCon: "Cuddle me long time", "Snog me!", "Licensed teddy bear", "Hug and let hug", and other similarly cheesy stuff...)
Definetily not >_<emittchiNovember 11 2002, 14:52:17 UTC
Argh! If you are in love with someone, and then start noticing that person wasn't at all like you thought they were, then I don't believe it was love at all! How could it be? You would've only had a crush on the image you had in your mind of that person!
To me one of the most important things in love is that you really know that person and can understand them. (Not entirely, of course, that's pretty impossible... but _much_ anyway.) Anything until that I'd call "attraction" or some such.
So no, if I see two people cuddling in a chair, I really don't think that "Oh wow, they are so in love!" ... -.- And if they are clan friends I'd most likely say they are just being cute and not necessarily/probably meaning anything with it... *grin*
I think it's really cool, in a way, that our clan is so open also when it comes to things like that... That it's pretty okay - if not even totally normal - to be "affectionate" with everyone and anyone. ^_^
True in some sense, false in some, I'd say. If this was entirely true, wouldn't it mean that you could never fall in love, because there is only the initial image in your mind everytime?
And exactly. You really need to know that person - meaning you just might get more and more entangled the better you get to know hir. Eh?
Clan friends. Uh. Well. Err. Say no more. ^^;
Eridanus - the clan of liberal love? (Egads, woman! We're mad!)
I guess you'd have to be friends (or something) first, to get to know each other well, before one day realizing that you are in love. How cute. ^^ Well, I'm not sure if that was what Emittchi meant, but I don't know how else you could accomplish knowing the person really well before falling in love...
Oh yes, we are very liberal. *lol* But it's so much fun!
Noora just said at Lautanen, that she won't leave Lasse and start dating with me. *pouts*
Umm. Ignore the first paragraph of the post above. I read the other posts on the subject again and noticed that more likely Emittchi meant that one can date and feel attracted, but one won't fall in love until one knows the other well, the real person behind the role they usually play, knows all his/her faults and likes him/her anyway.
Or then I got it completely wrong. Oh, just ignore this post, too.
Yes, that is exactly what I meant! Well, basically it's like saying I don't believe in love-at-first-sight. And it's also the reason why going on a date with someone I don't already know well as a friend terrifies me.
Because I think it's important to know a person, and not just be fooled by what they first appear to be. *nod*
((What do you mean "ignore"..?! :P Not a chance!))
Cool, I got it right. *does a little dance* ^_____^
I think you're right about love at first sight being impossible. At least, I won't believe in it until it happens to me. It might be possible to feel really attracted, but how can it be love when they don't know anything about each other?
Or then we're just expecting too much from love. It might not be that wonderful, after all.
Couples... couples are very "ouch" to me. I remember - and I'm sure some people remember - how I used to be very timid about anyone touching me or even praising me. :P I had no idea relationships could be that complex and simple at the same time, which totally aggravated me. Life's horrible and then you realize you're the one making it horrible. Or at least that's what happened with me. You see, I'm quite passive in a relationship. I'm not that bold as my present day demeanour might well suggest, and that... well.
I had a pause somewhere in the middle, some... what, nine months? Nine months. Freedom. Sure. You want it in a relationship soon, when you realize that you don't want that much attention - and vice versa when you're single. Admittedly, dearies, it is a very annoying little runt. Love, that is.
Too bad people are too fond of it, then.
Threesomes... well, there's something. Provided the feeling truly is mutual, it can be another part of heaven. Could be hell too, but it all sums up into a relationship with more freedom. (Then again, I don't feel the need to flirt with everyone anymore - which is very good. Me, content? Hah.) And the reason why is that you have to have an open mind for the relationship to begin in the first place.
And mind you, two guys and one girl is much better than two girls and one lad. (Don't look at me like that. It's true.)
What a rant. I'll put it brief, though: some people fall in love easier than others. I've seen people who have crushes on almost everyone they meet, and then there's people like me, who feel the need for something at times and try their best to find that something, only to mess up - people who don't fall in love easily and try to correct it. (Generally a bad idea.) What I'm trying to say is that... uh... well. In some very strange way I might even understand what you're talking about.
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I guess I'm one of those who have crushes easily. At least, I used to be (haven't had one for a year, at least) though I almost never did anything about it, just watched the objects of my crushes from afar. But I don't think I've ever really fallen in love. I thought I loved Sami and Petri at the time, but I'm not so sure that I did anymore. Hugging and kissing them was nice, but not a mind-blowing experience. I'd like to think that with the right person, it would be more than just nice.
But enough of that. I'm too scared to start a relationship with anyone again and besides, I think that I have so good friends that I don't need anything else. But it was fun to cuddle with you, though. ;)
*runs away before you or Emily smack her on the head*
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But never be too scared. It will drain your soul and wear you down like an endlessly bleeding wound.
Then again, if you really are taking it that positively and patiently, maybe you won't have the same problems I had.
Occassio.
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And now to the point. Well. I'm a little confused here. Do you actually think you've been in love? Are in love? Because to me "love" is really _the thing_... I mean, something quite unique and sincere. Not just something that lasted for a half a year. Then again, I've never even had a small crush so I don't know if I have a right to talk about it as if I knew something.
Couples... Are a definite yikes to me. Hey, I'm glad you've gotten over your problems. Really. But I haven't. I really have not ever fallen in love. Or had a crush. Or anything. I like people being close to me, but if I start to think about it I feel like screaming. And I'm scared. Bloody scared. I just can't not be, it's not that simple. I don't know if I want a relationship, or could even ever be in one, but seeing couples makes me feel depressed. And a freak.
Now, Yocchan, don't say a word about being sorry that you were with Z or Sciry. I don't want to take responsibility of you being single. Sorry, but I don't want any commitments of singlehood, not from you and not from me. Even a thing like that makes me feel my freedom is being threatened. So I'm sorry, but that's the way I am. No half-hearted promises that can be easily broken. --.--
Threesomes I've never really thought about. That one time we were talking about it, I was just thinking about the situation in bed, not as in having a real relationship. My guess is that such a thing would be fun at first, but could easily evolve into something painful. Emotions are tricky that way.
I wonder if it's really love people are too fond of. More like affection, acceptance and tenderness - and in my opinion all those three don't guarantee there's love. But I guess it's just a matter of definition. *shrug*
Sorry if I sound like a whiny, cynical little bitch, but hey, everybody hurts sometimes.
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I have - and it can last for a short time, as well. Say, 6 months, but it's always up to your own expectations and your SO's traits. The bad thing about relationships is that you really start to know the other only after you start to spend more time with hir, and sometimes sie doesn't seem... well... what you thought sie was.
But those are my personal thoughts on that matter, which shouldn't mean squat to you. *Nod.*
The definition of love is silly in itself - it is affection, acceptance and tenderness, all mixed up into one concept. It has a different tone, too, somehow... *Shrugs.* Maybe because getting affection, acceptance and tenderness is looked upon as something better left for relationships? It's one of these aggravating ethical questions.
I mean really. How do you look upon someone cuddling with everyone and then having... (no, wait, that was me.) Uh. I'll rephrase that... entirely.
What's it like when you see two of your friends sitting on the same chair, or rather, the other sitting on the other's lap? What do you see? Do you automatically surmise that they are in love or attracted to each other, especially if they seem a bit cuddly?
If you're cynical, then I suppose I'm simply a bit too philosophical at the moment. >_
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Cuddling with a friend is so good because you get the touch and maybe affection and tenderness too without having to make any commitments. You know you'll still be just friends afterwards and your freedom isn't threatened. At least, that's why I like it. E.g. Almena sat on my lap in RopeCon but it didn't mean that we were madly in love or in any way attracted to each other. It would have been the same if it had been a boy instead of Almie.
Umm. Just my opinion.
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(Badges to get from next year's RopeCon: "Cuddle me long time", "Snog me!", "Licensed teddy bear", "Hug and let hug", and other similarly cheesy stuff...)
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Oh my God! That is... hysterical. *giggles* And considering the person wearing those badges... oh dear... That's just... dangerous! XD
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(Badge excerpt #3612731: "I'm not dangerous. I'm cuddly!")
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To me one of the most important things in love is that you really know that person and can understand them. (Not entirely, of course, that's pretty impossible... but _much_ anyway.) Anything until that I'd call "attraction" or some such.
So no, if I see two people cuddling in a chair, I really don't think that "Oh wow, they are so in love!" ... -.- And if they are clan friends I'd most likely say they are just being cute and not necessarily/probably meaning anything with it... *grin*
I think it's really cool, in a way, that our clan is so open also when it comes to things like that... That it's pretty okay - if not even totally normal - to be "affectionate" with everyone and anyone. ^_^
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And exactly. You really need to know that person - meaning you just might get more and more entangled the better you get to know hir. Eh?
Clan friends. Uh. Well. Err. Say no more. ^^;
Eridanus - the clan of liberal love? (Egads, woman! We're mad!)
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Oh yes, we are very liberal. *lol* But it's so much fun!
Noora just said at Lautanen, that she won't leave Lasse and start dating with me. *pouts*
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Or then I got it completely wrong. Oh, just ignore this post, too.
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Yes, that is exactly what I meant! Well, basically it's like saying I don't believe in love-at-first-sight. And it's also the reason why going on a date with someone I don't already know well as a friend terrifies me.
Because I think it's important to know a person, and not just be fooled by what they first appear to be. *nod*
((What do you mean "ignore"..?! :P Not a chance!))
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I think you're right about love at first sight being impossible. At least, I won't believe in it until it happens to me. It might be possible to feel really attracted, but how can it be love when they don't know anything about each other?
Or then we're just expecting too much from love. It might not be that wonderful, after all.
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Well, she's no fun. She's s'posed to be the most liberal of us all!
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