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lazy_alex May 29 2009, 19:13:58 UTC
It's rare that something immediately good comes of a situation when you let men with guns in.

But sometimes, it's necessary to use the ones with the fractionally-less evil, corrupt, repressive leadership to kick out the fractionally worse ones. Assuming that havoc can then be un-cried, and the dogs of war re-leashed, it's possible to leave the situation less bad than it was when it started.

Doesn't always work that way, but it is just about possible.

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stagknight May 29 2009, 20:12:24 UTC
But when can we expect to replace the armed forces with hexapod military robots and nuclear-powered space lasers? After all, nothing quite says 'supreme power' like cutting your enemy's heart out from 36,000 km away.

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lazy_alex May 29 2009, 21:47:44 UTC
That's classified.

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chemical16 May 30 2009, 01:41:45 UTC
Hehe, and if the Illuminati won't be told...

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elsewhere_adore May 30 2009, 09:17:31 UTC
Unfortunately, even if the leadership is less evil and corrupt, the army is still a bunch of testosterone-crazed young men, taught to be aggressive, given guns, and sent away from the scrutiny of their own people in what I am led to believe is a culture of non-accountability ((in the US army, anyway. I understand the British are somewhat less sociopathic)).

Eh, I don't know, I'm not sure yet whether I believe in the idea of a 'just war'. In principle, fighting for your rights ((to party, at least)) is a sound concept, but when you introduce sadistic cockfucks and power-hungry scum it all goes to shit.

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tl;dr lazy_alex May 30 2009, 10:53:44 UTC
Can't really argue with you there, on most of it. However, I think the aggression is an interesting point - certainly recruits are taught to follow orders, to fight, and to kill, which requires overcoming a strong inherent taboo in most people. However, soldiers are taught strongly not to be wantonly reckless, and to look out for their friends. Most people in the modern West don't believe too strongly in fighting for God, or Queen, or a flag, but most will fight to keep them, and their mates, from being killed first ( ... )

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