I read your post btw and meant to answer but time... *throws up hands*
I had thought that the Cloister Bell when the first key hit the lava was the Doctor controlling the illusion and trying to impress on Clara the seriousness of the situation, but I had forgotten the key glowing after the TARDIS “regenerated” in Eleventh Hour, so could well be more, too. I could be wrong, but there might be more to it... It'd fit very well with setting something up without people being aware that that's what was happening.
And even though throwing the keys away is a dream, that might be quite enough for the TARDIS to dislike Clara. I don't think that's it. For one, it's not mentioned (no 'It's no wonder the TARDIS never liked you'), and second there's no evidence that the TARDIS is 'in' on the dream. It COULD fit if we never get another explanation, but I'm hoping there's more to it.
And for the TARDIS visual interface in Hide, showing up as Clara as a person she esteemed, to say “Of several billion such images in my databanks, this is the one that best meets the criterion.” As Clara would later say: “One last chance. And I don't care about the rules, I don't give a damn about paradoxes...” I can see what you're saying, but I think there must be an answer that fits better.
Of course neither did River, but the TARDIS was probably more okay with River's temporal recklessness because River's priority was to keep the Doctor safe. River is the child of the TARDIS, of course the TARDIS doesn't mind whatever she does. :)
Just rewatched the scene from Dark Water - Capaldi's series of expressions before he takes back control of the situation and tells Clara to look at her hand! Sheer poetry. And this is why it's such an important scene. Actually, it's almost literally the 'hold someone over a volcano and you'll see what they're made of'. ("Know a man for years. Live with him, share his bread and water, speak with him on every subject. Then tie him up and hold him over a volcano's edge. On that day, you shall finally meet that man." - Chinese warrior-poet Xiang Yu)
Someone on Philip Sandifer's post commented that the Mistress was perhaps training up Clara to be *her* companion, using the darker Doctor as an introductory training / gateway drug for the more difficult stuff. Could be. *pokes Clara*
And if the Mistress influenced the regeneration energy out of Gallifrey, perhaps she frowned him that face. Didn't mention faces! Hope we get an explanation for the repeated faces... That's most certainly something that's been set up very carefully.
Could totally see it working after the season so far. “You were an excellent Doctor. Goodness had nothing to do with it.” Absolutely! The themes have been incredibly consistent.
Looking forward to tomorrow and your subsequent reactions and meta! I both can't wait & dread it...
Hurrah for replies!
I read your post btw and meant to answer but time... *throws up hands*
I had thought that the Cloister Bell when the first key hit the lava was the Doctor controlling the illusion and trying to impress on Clara the seriousness of the situation, but I had forgotten the key glowing after the TARDIS “regenerated” in Eleventh Hour, so could well be more, too.
I could be wrong, but there might be more to it... It'd fit very well with setting something up without people being aware that that's what was happening.
And even though throwing the keys away is a dream, that might be quite enough for the TARDIS to dislike Clara.
I don't think that's it. For one, it's not mentioned (no 'It's no wonder the TARDIS never liked you'), and second there's no evidence that the TARDIS is 'in' on the dream. It COULD fit if we never get another explanation, but I'm hoping there's more to it.
And for the TARDIS visual interface in Hide, showing up as Clara as a person she esteemed, to say “Of several billion such images in my databanks, this is the one that best meets the criterion.” As Clara would later say: “One last chance. And I don't care about the rules, I don't give a damn about paradoxes...”
I can see what you're saying, but I think there must be an answer that fits better.
Of course neither did River, but the TARDIS was probably more okay with River's temporal recklessness because River's priority was to keep the Doctor safe.
River is the child of the TARDIS, of course the TARDIS doesn't mind whatever she does. :)
Just rewatched the scene from Dark Water - Capaldi's series of expressions before he takes back control of the situation and tells Clara to look at her hand! Sheer poetry.
And this is why it's such an important scene. Actually, it's almost literally the 'hold someone over a volcano and you'll see what they're made of'. ("Know a man for years. Live with him, share his bread and water, speak with him on every subject. Then tie him up and hold him over a volcano's edge. On that day, you shall finally meet that man."
- Chinese warrior-poet Xiang Yu)
Someone on Philip Sandifer's post commented that the Mistress was perhaps training up Clara to be *her* companion, using the darker Doctor as an introductory training / gateway drug for the more difficult stuff.
Could be. *pokes Clara*
And if the Mistress influenced the regeneration energy out of Gallifrey, perhaps she frowned him that face.
Didn't mention faces! Hope we get an explanation for the repeated faces... That's most certainly something that's been set up very carefully.
Could totally see it working after the season so far. “You were an excellent Doctor. Goodness had nothing to do with it.”
Absolutely! The themes have been incredibly consistent.
Looking forward to tomorrow and your subsequent reactions and meta!
I both can't wait & dread it...
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