[This started out as a long rant at fandom, but I cut it down to the bare bones. Feel free to skip.] Note: If you want a story where all the babiez are brutally KILLED and everything is about the Doctor’s man!pain, go watch The Runaway Bride. Imma gonna watch the episode with all the awesome wimmins in charge. (No disrespect to RTD or Donna. Love them both.)With that out of the way - welcome to the meta cafe! :) This is long and rambly, you have
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I still don't understand how the apparent / possible Time-Head-ness fits in with Emma's remark in Hide that she's “a perfectly ordinary girl”. Conversation turns to Gallifreyan connections and I start wondering if we're linking Clara to the Eternals, Death or Time or Pain, but she's also a perfectly ordinary girl. Back during The Snowmen, we had the ice woman frozen in the pond, who was a (dark) mirror for Clara, being the children's former nanny. She was, in fact, a survival scheme on the part of the Great Intelligence (who was a mirror for the Doctor in this episode): the perfect combination of ice and humanity, everything they needed to survive on earth. I've always taken this as foreshadowing about who Clara was.
The ice fits nicely with the Time Lords as water has always been a huge, ongoing metaphor for time on this show and ice, being frozen, static, fits with the Time Lords, who tended towards stasis (being stodgy and rule-abiding, not liking to interfere, taking a sweeping, detached view of all time, wanting to destroy time so they could become detached consciousnesses, and then, ultimately, getting stuck in another dimension, put on pause). This is in contrast to everything River's storyline represented: flow, growth, change, cycles, etc.
Ice also fits nicely with Clara, come to think of it. Her first two introductions feature snow prominently (Asylum of the Daleks and The Snowmen). This season has been heavily exploring her control-freak side. She is regularly depicted as frozen, doll-like, trapped in various ways. Though she's also tied into the flow, growth, cycles theme through the heavy use of flowers, eggs, and birds with her.
. . . ummm, which is my long-winded way of saying that I have no idea *how* she is both a perfectly ordinary girl and a time head-y thing, but it does make sense.
then, ultimately, getting stuck in another dimension, put on pause
She is regularly depicted as frozen, doll-like, trapped in various ways.
Possible parallel between Gallifrey getting tucked away 'safe' until it could be revived and Clara? We've been talking for awhile about the re-emergence of Time Lords, which I always rather suspected to mean Clara and the arrival of a post-Time Lord race, not, you know, Gallifrey coming back. But what if they are, in some sense, the same thing?
Back during The Snowmen, we had the ice woman frozen in the pond, who was a (dark) mirror for Clara, being the children's former nanny. She was, in fact, a survival scheme on the part of the Great Intelligence (who was a mirror for the Doctor in this episode): the perfect combination of ice and humanity, everything they needed to survive on earth. I've always taken this as foreshadowing about who Clara was.
The ice fits nicely with the Time Lords as water has always been a huge, ongoing metaphor for time on this show and ice, being frozen, static, fits with the Time Lords, who tended towards stasis (being stodgy and rule-abiding, not liking to interfere, taking a sweeping, detached view of all time, wanting to destroy time so they could become detached consciousnesses, and then, ultimately, getting stuck in another dimension, put on pause). This is in contrast to everything River's storyline represented: flow, growth, change, cycles, etc.
Ice also fits nicely with Clara, come to think of it. Her first two introductions feature snow prominently (Asylum of the Daleks and The Snowmen). This season has been heavily exploring her control-freak side. She is regularly depicted as frozen, doll-like, trapped in various ways. Though she's also tied into the flow, growth, cycles theme through the heavy use of flowers, eggs, and birds with her.
. . . ummm, which is my long-winded way of saying that I have no idea *how* she is both a perfectly ordinary girl and a time head-y thing, but it does make sense.
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She is regularly depicted as frozen, doll-like, trapped in various ways.
Possible parallel between Gallifrey getting tucked away 'safe' until it could be revived and Clara? We've been talking for awhile about the re-emergence of Time Lords, which I always rather suspected to mean Clara and the arrival of a post-Time Lord race, not, you know, Gallifrey coming back. But what if they are, in some sense, the same thing?
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