Miracle Day ep. 10

Sep 15, 2011 22:13

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promethia_tenk September 15 2011, 22:02:01 UTC
I am laughing so hard right now. It's just . . . it's like looking in a mirror. That is my exact reaction to, oh, most every other RTD finale. (How does that work? TV is a mysterious thing.) Anyway, welcome to my world *hands you aspirin and an ice pack*

Personal canon: The crack ate Miracle Day.
I am ok with this. It is what the crack is for, after all. But I need Gwen to remember shooting Jack. Because that was amazing.

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promethia_tenk September 15 2011, 23:26:13 UTC
Tell me you can see the potential DW parallels, though? With Jack looking into the Blessing World Vagina and realizing that, on balance, actually he'd done pretty good, and then being ready to die, and Gwen being like "I've got this" because she is hardcore now but also Gets It (god, if it's not Amy in that suit, and then I'm gonna be so confused), and then everything being magically alright again, and then suddenly Jack was not the Last of the Immortal Guys.

. . . I hope that doesn't suggest Jack/Rex is gonna be a thing. *fumbles for brain bleach*

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elisi September 16 2011, 07:22:43 UTC
god, if it's not Amy in that suit, and then I'm gonna be so confused
Heee! So much word! And yes, I guess I can see the parallels, although I can't BEGIN to explain how happy I am that there's no giant magic vagina in DW, which makes people look into their own souls for COMPLETELY UNEXPLAINED REASONS. *stab*

. . . I hope that doesn't suggest Jack/Rex is gonna be a thing. *fumbles for brain bleach*
Dude, that was like the ONE good thing. I mean, the reason behind it all was STUPID STUPID STUPID, but damn, I can get behind snarky, immortal Jack/Rex like THAT.

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bobthemole September 16 2011, 11:23:09 UTC
which makes people look into their own souls for COMPLETELY UNEXPLAINED REASONS.

OOH OOH I just figured out what it is!

It's the ABYSS THAT GAZES ALSO INTO YOU!!!

I can get behind snarky, immortal Jack/Rex like THAT
Also we now have two contenders for Face of Boe.

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elisi September 16 2011, 11:28:56 UTC
It's the ABYSS THAT GAZES ALSO INTO YOU!!!
Well couldn't they just have said that?

Also we now have two contenders for Face of Boe.
And they have babies...

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promethia_tenk September 16 2011, 14:30:09 UTC
although I can't BEGIN to explain how happy I am that there's no giant magic vagina in DW, which makes people look into their own souls for COMPLETELY UNEXPLAINED REASONS. *stab*
*blink, blink* . . . that's pretty much the Pandorica. Although mercifully that did not actually look like a giant vagina.

Dude, that was like the ONE good thing. I mean, the reason behind it all was STUPID STUPID STUPID, but damn, I can get behind snarky, immortal Jack/Rex like THAT.
Naturally Rex spending most of ten episodes telling Jack to stop being so gay would be set-up for that. And lol at the pregnancy comment.

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elisi September 16 2011, 14:57:25 UTC
*blink, blink* . . . that's pretty much the Pandorica. Although mercifully that did not actually look like a giant vagina.
'Splainy? The Pandorica was a prison, not a big magic thing that reached into people's SOULS.

Naturally Rex spending most of ten episodes telling Jack to stop being so gay would be set-up for that. And lol at the pregnancy comment.
Well the first time we ever hear about The Face of Boe, it's on the news (in... that episode with Adam The Bad Companion - The Long Game, that's it) that he/it is pregnant...

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promethia_tenk September 16 2011, 15:14:21 UTC
Is "box" slang for vagina in places other than America? Even if not, it still works: underground, feminine symbol, a holder of an imprint that is used to give life to the whole world, keeps people alive, controlled by a mysterious shadow alliance, hero is sacrificed to/in it. The looking into the soul thing Moff manages metaphorically through the legends of the Pandorica ("Hello, you--have we met?"), but then, who's to say the Blessing really looked into people's souls and it wasn't just that people were told it did that and they looked into themselves?

Well the first time we ever hear about The Face of Boe, it's on the news (in... that episode with Adam The Bad Companion - The Long Game, that's it) that he/it is pregnant...
Always amused me. And doesn't Jack complain at the beginning of TW that he hates being pregnant?

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elisi September 16 2011, 16:12:17 UTC
Is "box" slang for vagina in places other than America?
Yes. Yes it is. (I have a VERY amusing story re. this involving my sister-in-law...)

The looking into the soul thing Moff manages metaphorically through the legends of the Pandorica ("Hello, you--have we met?")
Yes but metaphors are FINE! My kids see the Pandorica as a Big (scary) Box that the Doctor got locked into. (And the older one probably gets the Pandora's Box reference.) The little one wants a River figure w. the Pandorica chair for her birthday. It's a THING. The Blessing was a McGuffin that worked 'because it did' (and people who didn't know what it was, sometimes went off and killed themselves after seeing it, so it wasn't just hype). Although, considering the sheer amount of 'These things happen when you're on a Hellmouth' stuff I've managed to fanwank over the years, it's interesting to hit a solid wall. The Blessing is just stupid.

And doesn't Jack complain at the beginning of TW that he hates being pregnant?

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promethia_tenk September 16 2011, 16:48:29 UTC
It's funny because, reading this and a number of your other complaints in this post, I find myself quite automatically coming up with reasons I'm fine with the Blessing being a McGuffin and why I think it's actually better set up than you're making it out and and and . . . But it doesn't actually matter. The wall is the wall, and I know this through intimate acquaintance. Please say 'hi' to the slightly gray-ish brick on the upper left for me.

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elisi September 16 2011, 16:54:24 UTC
It's funny because, reading this and a number of your other complaints in this post, I find myself quite automatically coming up with reasons I'm fine with the Blessing being a McGuffin and why I think it's actually better set up than you're making it out and and and . . .
Oh I'm sure. But it's hitting my s8 buttons and I am *thisclose* to breaking out my dancing Jacks gif. But I shall WALK AWAY.

*waves to brick*

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topaz_eyes September 16 2011, 18:07:26 UTC
OTOH, the Jack/Rex hate!sex would be epic...

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elisi September 16 2011, 07:18:20 UTC
I am laughing so hard right now. It's just . . . it's like looking in a mirror. That is my exact reaction to, oh, most every other RTD finale. (How does that work? TV is a mysterious thing.) Anyway, welcome to my world *hands you aspirin and an ice pack*
Thanks. I can cope with almost any amount of crack, as long as the characters ring true, but this was so slow and silly that I just didn't care.

I am ok with this. It is what the crack is for, after all. But I need Gwen to remember shooting Jack. Because that was amazing.
Oh I'm sure that she will. She's been exposed to enough timey-wimey shenanigans to remember.

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promethia_tenk September 16 2011, 15:01:48 UTC
Thanks. I can cope with almost any amount of crack, as long as the characters ring true, but this was so slow and silly that I just didn't care.*nods sadly* Yeah . . . yeah. I have no answers for you. If you want to go find RTD and kick him in the shins, though, I'm still in. Although, weirdly, having connected so well with MD, I decided to go back and try one of his DW finales again last night (I went with Utopia/SoD/LotTL), and it was a bit like some switch had been flicked in my head and I sort of . . . almost . . . got it. It was like "ok, so this is insultingly stupid, and simultaneously far too quickly and far too slowly paced, and none of it actually makes sense, and the humor is off-putting, and most of the characters are wood, and if these are the kinds of things Rusty thinks about regularly, I have no idea how he lives in his head, and at regular intervals I feel slightly nauseated. But it is kind of a good story anyway!" I'm reminded of Russel Crowe in Gladiator, having killed somebody in the ring and shouting to ( ... )

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elisi September 16 2011, 15:59:03 UTC
*nods sadly* Yeah . . . yeah. I have no answers for you. If you want to go find RTD and kick him in the shins, though, I'm still in.
Hmm. He's ENORMOUS though. And very think skinned. I doubt it'd make a difference...

and it was a bit like some switch had been flicked in my head and I sort of . . . almost . . . got it.
Heeeeeee! I can cope with his regular DW stuff just fine, because it's crack. And I like crack. And I like CoE because it's good. But if it's neither... /o\

I'm reminded of Russel Crowe in Gladiator, having killed somebody in the ring and shouting to the audience: "ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?" I think that's Rusty.
Ah yes. Yes very much.

I was basically watching a spin-off show called Gwen in America Fights The System, and Jack was just a slightly familiar component of the baroque fantasy of paranoia and misanthropy going on around her. I'm guessing this was a far better show than the Jack-centered one :-\
Yes, very much. Gwen was Awesome.

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promethia_tenk September 16 2011, 16:53:03 UTC
Hmm. He's ENORMOUS though. And very think skinned. I doubt it'd make a difference...
Well, you could say you'd done it, so that would be nice. Or you could borrow some steel-toed boots.

Heeeeeee! I can cope with his regular DW stuff just fine, because it's crack. And I like crack. And I like CoE because it's good. But if it's neither... /o\
Aaaahhh . . . yeah, MD is definitely crack for me. And rather quality crack at that.

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