SAME MAN, DIFFERENT TIME: META ON GODHOOD AND POWERS IN THE TEN AND ELEVEN ERAS.
topaz_eyes and I were having a v. interesting conversation on solitary_summer’s LJ, but when she posted the following comment I realised I needed to make a post, because even just thinking about the answer I knew it’d fill up about 4 comment boxes. (It ended up around 8000 words, in the end. Approximately.) Plus it was wildly off topic for the post it was in
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Ten: "I. AM. AMAZING!" *Does something amazing, poses proudly*
Rose: *licks teeth*
Martha: *gazes longingly*
Donna: "Harrumph."
Whereas...
"Eleven: Just watch this, c'mon, you'll see, I am ama--" *falls on his arse*
Amy: *facepalm*
Never really considered the Doctor's character as a partial-Trickster role, but it really does fit him, and makes sense. He was never supposed to be the conventional protagonist or hero, and the Doctor certainly has those Trickster attributes. And you described perfectly how he fits as a mentor-like figure, which I think is closely connected to his portrayal as a wizard- like Gandalf, or Yoda, and also Dumbledore (from Harry Potter). Like all these figures, the Doctor is old (so very old), and wise (but certainly not infallible) and definitely eccentric.
‘Just because a story isn't real, doesn't mean it can't be true. That's how magic works in Moffat's world.’- Definitely a magical concept, and a beautiful one. Thinking about that quote from Neil Gaiman, about how important story-telling is, and your above comment, I think this is why so many people write fiction, and why even more people read it. It still holds some truth to it.
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*beams* That's exactly what I was aiming for. I love them both, but they are SO different... One thing I found v. interesting was how half the time I was talking about how Ten and Eleven were completely different characters, and the other half I was drawing comparisons. (Also hence the length.)
and this was hilarious (and so true)
I have cherished it ever since I first came across it! :D
Never really considered the Doctor's character as a partial-Trickster role, but it really does fit him, and makes sense. He was never supposed to be the conventional protagonist or hero, and the Doctor certainly has those Trickster attributes.
He really does - suddenly *so* many things fell into place!
And you described perfectly how he fits as a mentor-like figure, which I think is closely connected to his portrayal as a wizard- like Gandalf, or Yoda, and also Dumbledore (from Harry Potter). Like all these figures, the Doctor is old (so very old), and wise (but certainly not infallible) and definitely eccentric.
I was totally going to mention Dumbledore, but forgot! Thanks for bringing him up.
Definitely a magical concept, and a beautiful one.
Isn't it just? I love how storytelling is at the heart of Moffat's Who ("We're all stories in the end"), and how important it is. (The Raggedy Doctor...)
Thinking about that quote from Neil Gaiman, about how important story-telling is, and your above comment, I think this is why so many people write fiction, and why even more people read it. It still holds some truth to it.
It really does. (Oh, and this fic!)
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Oh I know the feeling... But it's worth it.
River really does intrigue me- I find her the most mysterious figure in the Whoniverse, and I love fic that explores her character.
Um - anything by promethia_tenk or cinderbella333. I've written a few bits as well - I can get back to you later with more specific recs if you're interested?
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