And now I'm back - but just to say thank you for sharing your thoughts which make a lot of sense. Well thank you very much! :)
I didn't have a problem with the manner of Ten's death - I didn't see his final words as "whiny" as some did, because I thought that here was a man who, despite all the crap that life had thrown at him, still wanted to live and IMO there's something desperately heroic about that. Oh yes. (You've read this meta I presume?) Also, I think that for all his suicidal tendencies, he didn't want to die. To quote one of my friends, because she puts it perfectly:
'It's a story about a point in my life where sometimes living seemed bleak and hopeless and impossibly hard. And often enough, at those times - and they were rare - I’d find myself standing on the bridge looking over the river, mesmerised, or sitting at my window looking three floors down to the ground. And never, ever with an intention to do - simply in acknowledgment of the thought. But I'd hate that the thought - the feeling - would be there. And then one day it hit me, and it was never the magic solution that made it all go away, but it made a difference, I think. I didn't want to die; I wanted to jump.'
But the idea that he's possibly the only Doctor who could liken regeneration to death hadn't occurred to me before; same with your comments about Donna's "death" and her "regeneration" as a different person. When I made the connection my jaw literally dropped. I love it when that happens - when something fits together and you go 'Oh of course!'
Thanks for the links. I have read Jackoholic"'s post and I remember finding it at a time when I was so fed up with all the negativity I was seeing in posts and comments about Ten's "death". It was one of those times when I wondered what show everyone else had been watching!
I remember finding it at a time when I was so fed up with all the negativity I was seeing in posts and comments about Ten's "death". It was one of those times when I wondered what show everyone else had been watching! Oh do I know *that* feeling! (Which is why I tend to only read positive reviews. I can live without wanting to hit people over the head... Well, I don't mind fair criticism, but so often people just bash. *sigh*)
Lightbulb moments are always good ;-) They really are!
Well thank you very much! :)
I didn't have a problem with the manner of Ten's death - I didn't see his final words as "whiny" as some did, because I thought that here was a man who, despite all the crap that life had thrown at him, still wanted to live and IMO there's something desperately heroic about that.
Oh yes. (You've read this meta I presume?) Also, I think that for all his suicidal tendencies, he didn't want to die. To quote one of my friends, because she puts it perfectly:
'It's a story about a point in my life where sometimes living seemed bleak and hopeless and impossibly hard. And often enough, at those times - and they were rare - I’d find myself standing on the bridge looking over the river, mesmerised, or sitting at my window looking three floors down to the ground. And never, ever with an intention to do - simply in acknowledgment of the thought. But I'd hate that the thought - the feeling - would be there. And then one day it hit me, and it was never the magic solution that made it all go away, but it made a difference, I think. I didn't want to die; I wanted to jump.'
But the idea that he's possibly the only Doctor who could liken regeneration to death hadn't occurred to me before; same with your comments about Donna's "death" and her "regeneration" as a different person.
When I made the connection my jaw literally dropped. I love it when that happens - when something fits together and you go 'Oh of course!'
I also found myself nodding at solitary_summer's comment about the ambiguity of Rusty's stories.
She's written the meta about the RTD era: Death, life, and what it means to be human in RTD's Doctor Who and Torchwood. Very, very, very long. But worth it!
Anyway - thanks for sharing and for an interesting discussion.
Thank you for commenting. :)
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Lightbulb moments are always good ;-)
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Oh do I know *that* feeling! (Which is why I tend to only read positive reviews. I can live without wanting to hit people over the head... Well, I don't mind fair criticism, but so often people just bash. *sigh*)
Lightbulb moments are always good ;-)
They really are!
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