Ramblings.
Snow again. Although only enough to cover the ground.
Many thanks to jamalov29 for the lovely virtual present and to green_maia for the card! :)
Via zanthinegirl a fabulous video:
And then, for promethia_tenk, a writing meme. ( Read more... )
Many thanks to jamalov29 for the lovely virtual present and to green_maia for the card! :)
Via zanthinegirl a fabulous video:
Click to viewAnd then, for promethia_tenk, a writing meme. ( Read more... )
Personally I was just bored! *g* (Although I'd done about half earlier on, so it was only a question of finishing.)
Not because I didn't know this already, but I just realized I'm not sure I'd know how to do the same. I really need to *see* some of that interaction before I can write it.
Well it helps if you know it'll NEVER happen, so canon will never contradict you... ;)
So much depends on a comma.
Indeed. And I used abuse exclamation marks terribly - I read old fics and wince.
That is an excellent rule. And makes me want to stick characters in empty rooms to see what will happen. Heh heh heh.
*laughs* How long now before I get to see it?
You're one of the people who include very little sense detail in their work. Not that there aren't other ways to be lyrical, but it does tend to contribute. (Errr--that's not a crit, just an observation :-\)
Oh no worries, I'm very aware of this - but because I always write so *long*, by the time I've managed to get everything sounding right, the thought of adding more descriptions makes me wilt. So... it's just laziness, really.
OOooo, yes. This <3
Words are the most wonderful thing in the world. (And I say this as a former art student. Although I did always love books...)
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Ahhh . . . Fair point.
And I used abuse exclamation marks terribly - I read old fics and wince.
Lol. I feel like LJ has been a whole education in exclamation marks. I'm not inclined to use them myself, but you'd never be understood without them round these parts. It's like my daily regimen of enthusiasm: !!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!! *squee*
*laughs* How long now before I get to see it?
Oh, ha. I was in fact thinking of sticking characters in actual bare rooms (and imagining that gif of Matt Smith running around in a circle and falling down), but that is rather like meta space too. Yeah, I extorted the fic exchange mod last night. She was trying to convince me to write something, and I said I couldn't write anything new until my old fic had cleared my brain and POST THE DAMN FICS ALREADY, THANK YOU (may have used slightly different words). She said she'd start getting them up today. I have told students they would be getting papers back "tomorrow," though, and can sort of see where this is going.
I'm very aware of this - but because I always write so *long*, by the time I've managed to get everything sounding right, the thought of adding more descriptions makes me wilt.
You do the same in shorter fics too, though. But that's fine--it's your style.
And I say this as a former art student.
Cool :-)
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Indeed! Never underestimate the power of exclamation points. :)
Oh, ha. I was in fact thinking of sticking characters in actual bare rooms
I thought you might be, but I couldn't not go there...
(and imagining that gif of Matt Smith running around in a circle and falling down)
That never gets old!
I have told students they would be getting papers back "tomorrow," though, and can sort of see where this is going.
I shall cross my fingers!
You do the same in shorter fics too, though. But that's fine--it's your style.
Ah, but see the fic I mention in the meme (The Tale Of Spike's New Princess) is very lyrical. Also full of smut, mind you, so maybe that's got something to do with it? ;)
Cool :-)
Thanks. The icon is from one of my drawings.
ETA: Darn it, you made me think. Because John Smith wanted a normal, ordinary life. And somewhere inside the Doctor absolutely wants that too. (Remember he had a family once.) Of course he knows that he can't have that, so he never even goes as far as dreaming, or pretending, but in your Leadworth AU I can absolutely see Eleven's subconscious, the part that would normally sound the alarm that something was up, tell him very firmly to ignore anything weird and just hold onto the dream with everything he has. Of course there's the fact that he thought the future dream in Amy's Choice was horrible, but then there was nothing in it for him - in your story he once more has a wife and child, a job that's obviously holding his interest, and real, tangible, happiness, and that's a story he'll want to believe in.
...any good?
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Oh, I don't. Which is why I treat them with caution *shifty eyes*
I thought you might be, but I couldn't not go there...
I absolutely understand :-)
Ah, but see the fic I mention in the meme (The Tale Of Spike's New Princess) is very lyrical. Also full of smut, mind you, so maybe that's got something to do with it? ;)
Is it? Hmmm, I might have to give that a glance sometime. Smut and lyricism definitely go excellently together. Indeed, I think they usually evoke each other.
Thanks. The icon is from one of my drawings.
*squints* Evil Bert (from Sesame Street)? Very striking.
ETA: Darn it, you made me think.
Ooo, well, we certainly can't have that ;-)
Because John Smith wanted a normal, ordinary life. And somewhere inside the Doctor absolutely wants that too. . . . and that's a story he'll want to believe in. ...any good?
Oh, yes, absolutely. Although you put it far more eloquently than I and are making me reconsider exactly how much importance the "John Smith Effect" would have in the situation I've set up. I'm also interested in looking at the decision to go back to his real life because (spoiler alert) this is building to them all realizing what's going on and choosing to return to space adventures, but this time the Doctor will get to do that without loosing everything he had in that life and throwing a temper tantrum on the way out. And why should that be? Did the universe just decide to be nicer to him this time, or can we say that he did something right to help bring that about? (Obviously I think it's the second, but I'll want to be precise about whats and whys.) There's a central issue about finding healthy balances that's gonna be vital to this whole thing.
And I'm kind of debating how much I want to look at the uses and abuses of Time Lord powers in this fic as well. Because this whole idea of rewriting people by changing their pasts is troubling to me (and I suspect Moffat as well, if "Continuity Errors" is anything to go by), and it would in no way surprise me if it's an important issue next season. Not that I think that giving Amy her parents back was the wrong decision. I hesitate to cast doubt upon what was a truly touching and selfless gesture, and I think that, ultimately, the fact that Amy had to be an active participant in restoring her own past keeps the whole thing from being too manipulative or questionable. But I can see the Doctor's success in "fixing" Amy as perhaps serving as a precedent for more morally suspect tinkering in other people's timelines in the future.
There is something discomforting in that action of giving Amy her parents back and in how easily it came off, and I know that this fic is a way for me to finesse that to make it more acceptable/believable/balanced/something . . . I'm still not precisely sure what's going to be the key, though. And HN/FoB were also about the uses and abuses of Time Lord power, and there's something about those episodes that's niggling at my mind too, but I'm not sure what yet.
Heh. End ramble.
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I wish I had always been that wise...
Is it? Hmmm, I might have to give that a glance sometime. Smut and lyricism definitely go excellently together. Indeed, I think they usually evoke each other.
And you'll only need to watch the first 5 seasons of Buffy to understand where everyone's at! ;)
Oh, yes, absolutely. Although you put it far more eloquently than I and are making me reconsider exactly how much importance the "John Smith Effect" would have in the situation I've set up.
This is the sort of thing that'll make me big headed...
I'm also interested in looking at the decision to go back to his real life because (spoiler alert) this is building to them all realizing what's going on and choosing to return to space adventures, but this time the Doctor will get to do that without loosing everything he had in that life and throwing a temper tantrum on the way out. And why should that be? Did the universe just decide to be nicer to him this time, or can we say that he did something right to help bring that about?
Hmmm. Not sure if this is relevant, but I was thinking about the scene with Ten and the Master, where Ten says that just *seeing* the universe should be enough, he won't need to *own* it. And how the Doctor worries that he could turn into the Master if he let himself (and so on). Now what struck me was that Ten, in many ways, wanted to 'own' his companions. There was a sense of... entitlement? ('I love you'/'Quite right too') So I think that whenever he lost someone he felt *robbed*, rather than just sad over the loss. All of which leads me to Eleven, who doesn't have that possessive thing at all - see his delight over Amy and Rory getting a happy ending. It's enough for him to just witness others' life. Add to this the fact that on top of this he has River - someone who is his, and someone he can't lose because he's lost her already. (You know what I mean.)
SO - I think that Eleven would be far more ready to make the necessary choice, and not have that angry resentment that Ten would have, because I don't think he'd feel that he was somehow entitled to happiness. (Pile of good things & bad things.) I hope that's helpful.
Because this whole idea of rewriting people by changing their pasts is troubling to me (and I suspect Moffat as well, if "Continuity Errors" is anything to go by), and it would in no way surprise me if it's an important issue next season.
Matt Smith - somewhere - said that there'll be something wrong with Amy next season... And I still remember Moffat talking about Amy in the Confidential to The Eleventh Hour, and what if 'you grew up different to what you were supposed to'. He meant the Doctor abandoning her of course, but also probably included the loss of her parents in that (even though we didn't know that yet).
I know that this fic is a way for me to finesse that to make it more acceptable/believable/balanced/something . . . I'm still not precisely sure what's going to be the key, though. And HN/FoB were also about the uses and abuses of Time Lord power, and there's something about those episodes that's niggling at my mind too, but I'm not sure what yet.
Hmmm. Looking forward to what you come up with!
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Look out for doorframes ;-)
Now what struck me was that Ten, in many ways, wanted to 'own' his companions. There was a sense of... entitlement? ('I love you'/'Quite right too') So I think that whenever he lost someone he felt *robbed*, rather than just sad over the loss. All of which leads me to Eleven, who doesn't have that possessive thing at all - see his delight over Amy and Rory getting a happy ending. It's enough for him to just witness others' life. Add to this the fact that on top of this he has River - someone who is his, and someone he can't lose because he's lost her already. (You know what I mean.)
OOooo, yes. Yes, I like that very much, thank you! Excuse me while I go drop a link to this exchange in one of my though-gathering posts so I'll remember it. . .
Heh. Sudden thought that seems obvious in retrospect: you know what was great about that scene right before the Doctor flew the Pandorica away? It was four people all wanting what was best for someone else. Rory was looking out for Amy. Amy for River. River for the Doctor. And the Doctor for Amy. Hmmm . . . ok, Rory got left out there, poor guy, but I guess the Doc did a lot to help him get Amy, so . . . At any rate, I think a lot of that is carrying over into the psychologies of the people in the AU (Amy, in particular, is sort of fretting over what her parents have had to give up for her) and that includes Eleven.
Matt Smith - somewhere - said that there'll be something wrong with Amy next season... And I still remember Moffat talking about Amy in the Confidential to The Eleventh Hour, and what if 'you grew up different to what you were supposed to'.
Ooo oooo ooo--I had not made that connection! Excellent.
Hmmm. Looking forward to what you come up with!
Thanks :) Me too! I'll let you know.
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Will do! *g*
OOooo, yes. Yes, I like that very much, thank you! Excuse me while I go drop a link to this exchange in one of my though-gathering posts so I'll remember it. . .
My pleasure. :)
At any rate, I think a lot of that is carrying over into the psychologies of the people in the AU (Amy, in particular, is sort of fretting over what her parents have had to give up for her) and that includes Eleven.
Oh very good.
Ooo oooo ooo--I had not made that connection! Excellent.
I've had this in the back of my head all the time, and you've sort of turned it on its head with your 'How did Amy take to parents so quickly?' I always saw it as Amy finally being 'right' - like she was wrong, and missing something, after Rory was erased? Of course, she lost her parents for a lot longer... Although going by the freshness of the apple, it can't have been long before the Doctor showed up. (This only occurred to me last time I watched. Poor little Amelia...)
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And yet for all that she was wrong because Rory was missing, it was a real struggle for her to remember, you know? If you'd told her 'so, you had this fiance . . .' she would have been like 'very funny!' It's a bit different with parents because obviously one had parents, but still, I would expect a similar kind of struggle there.
Although going by the freshness of the apple, it can't have been long before the Doctor showed up. (This only occurred to me last time I watched. Poor little Amelia...)
*squishes her* Although, I was under the impression that it wasn't that her mother had put the face on that particular apple, but that she somehow remembered that her mother had done that and had done that apple up fresh for the Doctor. That said, the idea that her parents had been eaten just minutes before the Doc showed up is really nicely creepy . . .
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Why oh WHY have you not watched Buffy? *is sad* I keep wanting to reference stuff from it, but can't. All this about memory and who we are what it means and losing memories and regaining them etc etc... I learned all that stuff on Buffy (and Angel. Oh Angel...) and I feel handicapped not being able to use it! (Um, it's very late. Plz ignore me.)
Although, I was under the impression that it wasn't that her mother had put the face on that particular apple, but that she somehow remembered that her mother had done that and had done that apple up fresh for the Doctor.
Oh yes, that's certainly the implication that makes the most sense.
That said, the idea that her parents had been eaten just minutes before the Doc showed up is really nicely creepy . . .
Isn't it? Also, it's v. interesting that she remembers her mum putting faces on apples. Nothing's ever truly forgotten...
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*chuckle* There, there. I understand. And I assure you that I'm holding out purely to spite you ;-)
Nothing's ever truly forgotten...
I swear, I get choked up just at those words. I think that scene between Amy and the Doc under Stonehenge might just be my favorite of the whole season.
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LOL! Literally. Although I was going to suggest Torchwood as an adequate substitute for now... And given your response [to the other post], I am more than happy! \o/ Not that I don't dearly wish you'd watch Buffy and Angel, but they're 7 and 5 seasons long, respectively (22 episodes in each, apart from S1 of Buffy), and that would make me balk liek whoa. Serious commitment there, so you know, wait until you're bedridden for a few months... ;)
I swear, I get choked up just at those words. I think that scene between Amy and the Doc under Stonehenge might just be my favorite of the whole season.
*points to icon* It is such a beautiful, beautiful scene, and such a beautiful, beautiful story/theme/etc. Actually, I will bring up Angel - specifically some meta by Anna...
We don't stop being human when we lose our hearts; nor when we lose our heads. And every last vestige of humanity can be drained from us, but as long as somebody, somewhere cares, we are not dust.
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Heh.
Serious commitment there, so you know, wait until you're bedridden for a few months... ;)
Check. Oh, the pile of modern classics that I have to watch--it is intimidating. Although Moffat revealed in the production notes of the latest DWM that he hasn't seen Buffy either, so henceforth this is my excuse *nods*
We don't stop being human when we lose our hearts; nor when we lose our heads. And every last vestige of humanity can be drained from us, but as long as somebody, somewhere cares, we are not dust.
Hmmmm . . . that is lovely.
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Well you're in good company, I'll give you that. (Re. Torchwood, then the first episode is actually pretty brilliant in showing the themes etc of the whole thing. And the way in which playing with people's memory/withholding information is an integral part of the show.)
Hmmmm . . . that is lovely.
Isn't it just? Anna (the_royal_anna writes the most gorgeous meta ever. I almost want you to watch Buffy just so you can read her stuff... She's written a bit on Doctor Who btw - mostly S1, but it's in her memories if you want to have look.)
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For some reason I remembered never replying to this particular question (my brain is weird like that...) Thank you, and no, it's not Evil Bert (although I think the puppets were made by the Sesame Street people) - it's Puppet!Angel from the episode 'Smile Time', where he *literally* becomes a puppet. It's one of the most brilliant episodes ever ever ever!
ETA: Oh, and re. other recent conversations, I almost want to warn you off Torchwood now... Not that I don't want you to watch it, but OMG SO BLEAK! OK, so S2 brightens up considerably, but still The Law of Joss alwaysa applies (RTD is *such* a Joss fanboy...): If people are happy it means that HORRIBLE THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN TO THEM!!! If you watch, make sure to assume the crash position before you start...
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I get that sometimes.
(although I think the puppets were made by the Sesame Street people)
Aaaaahhh--that would explain it. It was like whut is going on here? Still very striking, though :-)
it's Puppet!Angel from the episode 'Smile Time', where he *literally* becomes a puppet. It's one of the most brilliant episodes ever ever ever!
I gather Buffy did some good crack? I mean, one always hears about "Once More With Feeling." I miss the crack-y X-Files episodes.
ETA: Oh, and re. other recent conversations, I almost want to warn you off Torchwood now...
Well, thank you for the warning. I haven't started yet, although I might still go for it anyway. My mind is weird with bleak stuff . . . [and here I've written and unwritten about a paragraph of text a whole bunch of times trying to work out my attitude towards darkly-toned tv shows. I've come to the conclusion that I have no idea how I feel about them except to say that I will put up with almost anything if I find the characters compelling enough.]
I think mostly with Torchwood I really want to see how it compares with Battlestar Galactica--it sounds like they're in very similar territory of tone and genre and such, and Battlestar was certainly an anomaly of a show that I could feel completely elated about even as it went about finding ever-more creative and sadistic ways to put its characters through hell.
[Unrelated icon is unrelated, but new!]
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New icon is misspelled. Or possibly partly in French. Yeah, let's say it's that.
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