So - I propose that the whole thing was an elaborate plot to enable Cordy/Jasmine to steal Angel's soul
That's always been my assumption! I always assumed that the "Two separate personalities" thing is Angel's human friends way of dealing with season two (BTVS). And when I rewatched season two one thing that stood out to me is that Dru and Spike call him "Angel"; not "Angelus". Frankly I never got the impression that Angel himself believed the two personalities thing; but that he was willing to go along with it as it made things easier for Cordy and Fred (possibly Wes and Gun?).
Well yes and no... Spike greets him as 'Angelus' in School Hard, but in f.ex.'Innocence' and 'B, B &B' they use 'Angel':
Judge: There's no humanity in him. (turns and goes) Angelus: (faces Spike) I couldn't have said it better myself. Drusilla: Angel. Angelus: Yeah, baby. I'm back.
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Angelus: Happy Valentine's Day, Dru. Drusilla: Oh... (holds her hands over the heart) Angel!
Well yes and no... Spike greets him as 'Angelus' in School Hard, but in f.ex.'Innocence' and 'B, B &B' they use 'Angel':
Ok. But when Spike greeted him in SH my impression was that he called him "Angelus" as a ploy to go along with Angel's rouse that he was his evil old self again.
Since I haven't watched the relevant episodes in S3 and AtS 4 in so long I can't cite specific examples now, but if I can tear myself away from my Deadwood S2 DVD long enough to skim through some before this topic gets too stale I will. (This weekend is going to be super busy though.) I seem to remember Angel often being referred to as Angelus while he's unsouled, and that in AtS S4 after his soul is restored to him that he apologizes to everyone for what Angelus did and everyone reassuring him that it wasn't his fault. But don't hold me to what my vague memory tells me - I need to watch again to get the right of it - - or, check out some transcripts if I have the time at work.
It's all such a deeply fascinating subject. But I'm in the middle of a huge big essay (=jumble of thoughts) dealing with souls and redemption and stuff, so I'll not begin talking now. But very quickly I think it might be like an alcoholic getting blind drunk and inflicting all sorts of damage. When sober he feels awful, and people might forgive him, but he still feels guilty... does that work?
Hmmm I think Angel (with time) quite carefully crafts the 'Angel' persona (he's after all the one who came up with the name etc.) as a way of distancing himself somehow from his past crimes. (I'm re-watching 'Guise Will Be Guise' and man there are some good insights in that episode!)
Sadly tough I don't have time to elaborate more right now... (re-watch it yourself and see!!!)
That's always been my assumption! I always assumed that the "Two separate personalities" thing is Angel's human friends way of dealing with season two (BTVS). And when I rewatched season two one thing that stood out to me is that Dru and Spike call him "Angel"; not "Angelus". Frankly I never got the impression that Angel himself believed the two personalities thing; but that he was willing to go along with it as it made things easier for Cordy and Fred (possibly Wes and Gun?).
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They did call him Angelus (hitting the first, rather than the second syllable), after he lost his soul and moved into the factory.
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Judge: There's no humanity in him. (turns and goes)
Angelus: (faces Spike) I couldn't have said it better myself.
Drusilla: Angel.
Angelus: Yeah, baby. I'm back.
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Angelus: Happy Valentine's Day, Dru.
Drusilla: Oh... (holds her hands over the heart) Angel!
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Ok. But when Spike greeted him in SH my impression was that he called him "Angelus" as a ploy to go along with Angel's rouse that he was his evil old self again.
Since I haven't watched the relevant episodes in S3 and AtS 4 in so long I can't cite specific examples now, but if I can tear myself away from my Deadwood S2 DVD long enough to skim through some before this topic gets too stale I will. (This weekend is going to be super busy though.) I seem to remember Angel often being referred to as Angelus while he's unsouled, and that in AtS S4 after his soul is restored to him that he apologizes to everyone for what Angelus did and everyone reassuring him that it wasn't his fault. But don't hold me to what my vague memory tells me - I need to watch again to get the right of it - - or, check out some transcripts if I have the time at work.
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Sadly tough I don't have time to elaborate more right now... (re-watch it yourself and see!!!)
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Though it's a good excuse to hang around the used record store...
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