The Million Shoe March.

Dec 15, 2008 14:53

First heard this on Stephanie Miller this morning, and it seems to be going hot: Mail President Bush a shoe. The address for the White House is: 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW, Washington DC, 20500.

After all the abuse of office, and the sheer inability of the man to come to grips with the great moral evil he has unleashed on the world, even from a ( Read more... )

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darrelx December 16 2008, 01:29:43 UTC
Yeah, so what!

Our reason for invading Iraq was valid - to remove Saddam Hussein from power.

Just because the al-Qaeda insurgents showed up afterwards doesn't mean that it wasn't a valid battleground. Should we have left the infant government to fend for itself after al-Qaeda set up strongholds?

Why cripple the security screening portion of the White-house mail-room and cost the taxpayers even more money for a stupid, meaningless gesture? What you are suggesting is basically a Denial of Service attack on the white house mailroom.

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bayushi December 16 2008, 01:36:11 UTC
The reasoning for invading Iraq wasn't to remove Saddam Hussein from power until AFTER we invaded and found no WMDs.

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darrelx December 16 2008, 16:58:58 UTC
No WMD's? How about 550 Metric Tonnes of Yellowcake from Nigeria. Look it up.

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mikstera December 16 2008, 17:54:59 UTC
Thank you, Snopes:

Claim: The removal of yellowcake uranium from Iraq in 2008 proved that Saddam Hussein had been trying to restart Iraq's nuclear program.

Status: False

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darrelx December 16 2008, 18:17:07 UTC
Snopes failed to mention that Saddam Hussein claimed to have destroyed this yellowcake and refused to let UN Inspectors revisit the site... just one of the reasons cited for the UN passing a resolution declaring Saddam's violation of the 1991 cease-fire agreement.

I lost all faith in Snopes regarding partisan political issues many years ago. Their liberal bias is obvious to people who do their own research. and compare the facts of what they *don't* include in their articles.

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darrelx December 18 2008, 13:22:07 UTC
Destroyed 550 metric tons of yellowcake? Sounds easy & cheap. NOT!

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Ooops, I am evidently confused. darrelx December 18 2008, 13:25:06 UTC
Wait, are third-party claims of what Hussein supposedly claimed a good source of facts about him? I didn't even know that Hussein himself was a trustworthy source of facts about his government and its capabilities.

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ben_raccoon December 16 2008, 02:16:10 UTC
Yeah, sure it was. Eventually. The first reason was that Saddam had ties to Osama bin Laden. Wait, whoops! Turns out they hated each other. Then they had weapons of mass destruction. Wait, whoops! Only weapons they could find were a couple canisters of mustard gas that expired sometime in the eighties. Bonus! The Bush administration flat out admitted they were lying. Then the reason was that they were actively pursuing a WMD program. Wait.. that one didn't work either. We'll also just ignore the whole lack of a formal declaration of war from Congress, too. It's not like we needed one of those, right?

It's okay to admit that 'your team' screwed up, really. Even the wingnuts are willing to concede that Iraq was a clusterfuck from the word 'go'.

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darrelx December 16 2008, 17:01:32 UTC
The reason was that Saddam violated the Cease-fire agreement from the First gulf war, when we agreed to withdraw as long as certain conditions (negotiated by the U.N.) were met.

Our invasion into Iraq was COMPLETELY legal, and according to the terms that Saddam Hussein put his own signature to, personally.

...no matter how many left-wing radicals say otherwise. Repeating a lie ad-nauseum does not make it true, just more disgusting.

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hydrolagus December 16 2008, 02:20:36 UTC
"What" is having a post-invasion plan that accounted for the rearrangement of various power groups that Hussein had been keeping forcibly arranged to his liking. "What" is listening to historians, sociologists and anthropologists familiar with the region much earlier in the campaign than Petreus's assignment. al-Qaeda showing up in Iraq during the chaos was not unpredictable and we could have been prepared if we'd been basing our strategy on reality.

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kengr December 16 2008, 02:24:48 UTC
Sorry, but the *current* president's father deliberately chose to *not* invade Iraq to remove Saddam from power.

Why?

Because everyone knew that while he was bad the likely replacements were worse.

Yes, back during the first Gulf war it was being publicly discussed that removing Saddam would result in exactly the sort of mess we have now. The *best* results that could be expected weren't real great either.

That's *why* this Bush had to push the fake links to Al Qaeda and the lies about WMD. Because *just* removing Saddam from power was known to be a *bad* idea.

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elfs December 16 2008, 03:39:22 UTC
No, our stated reason was to prevent Saddam from deploying weapons of mass destruction. The entire course of our behavior as a nation prior to the invasion has been revealed as one dedicated to the course of war, facts be damned, and is atrocious ( ... )

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darrelx December 16 2008, 16:50:10 UTC
You, Darrell, remain a cheerleader for a liar and a torturerYou, Elf, are completely duped by years of lies from the main-stream-media that failed to report accurately and completely on any aspect of the Iraq invasion ( ... )

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