002. Intimations

Feb 09, 2009 19:05

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In the Metamorphoses of Ovid, the Sibyl of Cumae is granted a wish by the god Apollo, in exchange for her virginity. She takes up a handful of sand and wishes to live for as many years as the grains of sand she holds. Later, she spurns the god's affections and he denies her eternal youth. The Sibyl wastes away over the years ( Read more... )

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missmimmi February 10 2009, 00:32:26 UTC
I would trade nothing, for I would rather not be immortal.

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electroniccrane February 10 2009, 00:33:37 UTC
Why?

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missmimmi February 10 2009, 20:13:05 UTC
The thought of living forever disturbs me beyond reason.

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electroniccrane February 10 2009, 21:06:30 UTC
"Forever" is so vague. Humans live a hundred years, give or take. To people who count their lives by decades, is there much of a difference between living a thousand years and living "forever?"

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missmimmi February 10 2009, 21:09:03 UTC
I suppose not.

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electroniccrane February 10 2009, 21:31:41 UTC
I think the longing for "immortality" is more an expression of a desire for control over one's destiny. Death is the ultimate loss of control.

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missmimmi February 10 2009, 21:37:20 UTC
It could very well be. I like to think death is the passage to a different sort of life.

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electroniccrane February 10 2009, 21:58:30 UTC
I'm afraid I know a little too much about the working of my consciousness to hope for that.

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missmimmi February 10 2009, 22:07:49 UTC
I do not... understand.

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electroniccrane February 10 2009, 22:31:09 UTC
If my brain functions cease, my existence will cease with them. Consciousness is a material process, though not a deterministic one.

[She sounds neutral on the whole idea.]

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missmimmi February 11 2009, 19:37:36 UTC
And you are fine with that belief?

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electroniccrane February 11 2009, 20:26:49 UTC
Whether or not I'm fine with it doesn't affect the truth value of a statement.

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missmimmi February 11 2009, 20:38:28 UTC
How are you so sure it is the truth?

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electroniccrane February 11 2009, 23:55:31 UTC
We've got the brain mapped where I'm from. We can do things like create memories that never happened, or remove unpleasant ones. It doesn't leave much room for some kind of extra-material soul.

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missmimmi February 12 2009, 00:56:39 UTC
Sounds like a faithless world.

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electroniccrane February 12 2009, 01:18:54 UTC
Oh, it doesn't stop people from practicing their religions. Humans are good at holding contradictory ideas. I've just had more cause to think about the matter than most.

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