Protocols of the Elders of Sodom

[eldaradan]

Alright. I've had a crush on this queer Scottish author, Hal Duncan, ever since I read Vellum while I was in Germany. (This month Ink, the sequel, finally comes out! I've been waiting for MONTHS!!) Anyway, he writes really good fairly non-linear, vaguely Joycean sci-fi/fantasy on an epic/mythical scale, as well as a blog. Here's a link to a

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[outotoro]

In general, the person who sets the definitons in a debate and the terms of the debate will win.

And of course, the other intresting note is that I would argue that if something is natural then it is in fact most likely immoral - but I'm a pessimist when it comes to people.

[aristos1]

Yeah, look where eating got us...

[eldaradan]

LOL, yes.

[aristos1]

No more Garden for you!

[eldaradan]

Aw. :-(

[outotoro]

says the guy who works out, has a nice metabolism, and is thin. One might also point to the current levels of obesiety in this country and the related heart disease and say, "Indeed, look at where eating has gotten us." =o)

[aristos1]

Ah, I was more referring to the loss of Eden because of eating. If that bitch hadn't felt the need to eat, the human race would still be blissfully lounging away figuring out names for all of the animals. ;-)

[outotoro]

Now, don't go all Adam on me and try to blame Eve -- and we already had names for everything -- Eve shows up after all the animals are named. And besides, there was plenty of other food there - must be one of those cravings. The bible doesn't say what the tree was -- maybe it was some fruit that tasted like Dill Pickles and Ice Cream.

[aristos1]

Yeah, they had names for all the animals, but I doubt they had named all of the bacteria and protozoa; I mean, there are a lot of those buggers and we're still counting and naming them to this day. If it was a Ben & Jerry's flavored fruit tree, I can't really blame her then. I give.

[eldaradan]

But, if it's a question of natural/unnatural, good/bad, then you have to concede your point--our culture has an exceptionally unnatural way of eating, and it's fucking us. When you look how humans evolved to eat, and when you look at how we do... well, egad. You can see why we're all sick and fat.