The engagement thing should have never been brought up. I keep thinking about this! Remember how in the first post-strike interviews Jenna (I think? John too, maybe?) was talking about how they didn't expect to do anything else with Jim and Pam because there were only six episodes, but once they got their scripts there was a curveball. The thing is, they didn't need to do anything with Jim and Pam. They could've focused on Dwight/Angela/Andy if this is how they wanted to finish it off. We didn't ask for engagement buildup, we didn't need it. They could've sprinkled a couple of random Jim/Pam moments in there and it would've been FINE, but they did it and the way they chose to do it is just... such a damn cop out. I mean, he had the ring in his hand, Carrie! He paid for that damn carnival, and that moment meant relatively SO LITTLE to Andy. AND ANGELA IS HITTING DWIGHT ON THE SIDE, I just, damn it
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John said it just a few days ago! He was talking about how they weren't expecting all of these developments in the final six. If they had pulled it off that would be one thing, but nooooooo. They so did not pull it off. Am I even lame for being disappointed with the Dwight/Angela thing? I feel like they've wrecked what I used to love about Angela. I mean, cheating on Andy? Not that she was ever really in love with him or anything, but still! She accepted his proposal! Her uptight nature in regards to her morals was one of her trademark character traits...WHAT HAPPENED? I really hate that she's been reduced to having sex in the office with someone who is not her boyfriend.
I usually get less annoyed as time goes on, but I'm getting more pissed off as the hours pass. This is like Phyllis' Wedding, except we don't have a good ten episodes left to rectify the mess. This felt more like a February sweeps episode and probably would have been fine as such.
Oh, I'm so with you on Dwight/Angela. It threw salt on the very very open Andy-stealing-Jim's-thunder-so-damn-CASUALLY wound because they took something that would have MEANT SOMETHING away and replaced it with something that meant nothing. And YEAH, total character destruction for Angela, what the hell is up with that? It feels like everything in this finale was built up for the shock factor, at the expense of character? Ugh.
This felt more like a February sweeps episode and probably would have been fine as such. SERIOUSLY. Had this happened in February, I might've even liked it? Midseason disappointments are so much more okay, and there was a lot about this episode that did work (Kevin! Kelly!), but the fact that there is NO MORE, and there isn't another chance for three months, I just, god damn it, WHY?
I just wanted to jump and agree with this whole conversation. You said what I've been thinking. And just - it's so frustrating and sad and disappointing and angering...
it's so frustrating and sad and disappointing and angering I KNOW, I feel such a cocktail of things right now, and the damn thing aired hours ago. I'm so upset, Amy! Why why why why why?
I DON'T KNOOOOOOW ALEX, but it's just... so much. TOO MUCH. They're making me think too much about future [but reading through some comments, I'm starting to calm down a little]. I JUST - IT FELT LIKE THERE WAS SO MUCH RIDING ON THIS NIGHT, Y'KNOW? AND THEN IT DIES AND SOME COUPLE WHO CAN BARELY STAND EACH OTHER GET ENGAGED INSTEAD?
IT WAS THE PERFECT ENGAGEMENT SCENARIO FOR JIM AND PAM. Like, I can't get over the fact that that moment -- their perfect moment -- is just GONE. What the hell, world.
they took something that would have MEANT SOMETHING away and replaced it with something that meant nothing. yesssssssssssssssss.
I would have even been more okay with this if it had been Dwight proposing to Angela. SIDE NOTE: HOW COME I CAN COME UP WITH LIKE 5 MILLION SCENARIOS THAT WOULD HAVE MADE THIS MORE TOLERABLE BUT THE WRITERS TOOK THIS ROUTE?
Angela is just a big fat question mark for me right now. She's always been a bitch, but it's always been based on the fact that she disagrees with everyone who doesn't share her morals. But lately she's just been so intentionally cruel. Like, her comment to Phyllis at the end of the episode about the party was so incredibly vindictive. Struck me as odd. And having sex in the office? What happened to the woman who wouldn't even face Dwight in the break room when they were talking for fear of being caught.
I feel like there's going to be an announcement tomorrow like, BELATED APRIL FOOLS! The real season finale is next Thursday at 9pm. Tune in!
SIDE NOTE: HOW COME I CAN COME UP WITH LIKE 5 MILLION SCENARIOS THAT WOULD HAVE MADE THIS MORE TOLERABLE BUT THE WRITERS TOOK THIS ROUTE? OBVIOUSLY THEY JUST WANTED TO BE MEAN TO US. (Uh, my feelings on this have come to a point where I'm pretty sure the next comment you see from me will involve the words "meanies" or "buttheads".) Seriously, absolutely EVERYTHING seems more tolerable than... this. I mean, jesus, if Pam was disappointed in Jim for an actual reason it would have been more okay! But he was going to and he didn't get to and GOD DAMN IT.
You know, what they did with Angela it kind of reminds me of Jan's character assassination in "the Job". Plowing through storylines without thinking about the characters they have? I mean, why did Angela say "okay" to Andy? And what the hell is this Dwight thing? It's so ridiculously unAngela. UGH, WORLD.
Oh man, Jan is all over the place. I don't get what they're trying to do with her. I mean, she seemed normal and responsible tonight. And I was pretty sure she'd show up pregnant from spoilers I'd read, but I thought it would be Michael's kid (still holding out hope that it might be) and I thought she'd still be totally nuts. (I do believe I'm the only one, but I am super excited to see pregnant Jan and expectant father Michael.)
Just...MAN, WRITERS. I know they're all writing season five episodes right now so I feel like I should channel some RETURN TO FORM vibes or something.
She did seem normal and responsible, but the sperm bank thing was just so CRUEL. I mean, I guess I kind of get not wanting to produce a child that is genetically related to Michael Scott, but... god. I hope it's actually his too. But even if it is, WHY TELL HIM THAT?
But it was a weird twist to have in there after all this "Jan doesn't want kids!" stuff. I just... I don't know. They've TOTALLY messed her up. I miss old Jan! It was so delightful to watch how upset she was with herself for kind of actually being attracted to Michael Scott.
You know, once upon a time I TRUSTED THAT WRITER'S ROOM.
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I keep thinking about this! Remember how in the first post-strike interviews Jenna (I think? John too, maybe?) was talking about how they didn't expect to do anything else with Jim and Pam because there were only six episodes, but once they got their scripts there was a curveball. The thing is, they didn't need to do anything with Jim and Pam. They could've focused on Dwight/Angela/Andy if this is how they wanted to finish it off. We didn't ask for engagement buildup, we didn't need it. They could've sprinkled a couple of random Jim/Pam moments in there and it would've been FINE, but they did it and the way they chose to do it is just... such a damn cop out. I mean, he had the ring in his hand, Carrie! He paid for that damn carnival, and that moment meant relatively SO LITTLE to Andy. AND ANGELA IS HITTING DWIGHT ON THE SIDE, I just, damn it ( ... )
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I usually get less annoyed as time goes on, but I'm getting more pissed off as the hours pass. This is like Phyllis' Wedding, except we don't have a good ten episodes left to rectify the mess. This felt more like a February sweeps episode and probably would have been fine as such.
They just really messed things up this season.
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This felt more like a February sweeps episode and probably would have been fine as such.
SERIOUSLY. Had this happened in February, I might've even liked it? Midseason disappointments are so much more okay, and there was a lot about this episode that did work (Kevin! Kelly!), but the fact that there is NO MORE, and there isn't another chance for three months, I just, god damn it, WHY?
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I KNOW, I feel such a cocktail of things right now, and the damn thing aired hours ago. I'm so upset, Amy! Why why why why why?
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Twisty is a word for it. There are others.
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Others indeed.
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yesssssssssssssssss.
I would have even been more okay with this if it had been Dwight proposing to Angela. SIDE NOTE: HOW COME I CAN COME UP WITH LIKE 5 MILLION SCENARIOS THAT WOULD HAVE MADE THIS MORE TOLERABLE BUT THE WRITERS TOOK THIS ROUTE?
Angela is just a big fat question mark for me right now. She's always been a bitch, but it's always been based on the fact that she disagrees with everyone who doesn't share her morals. But lately she's just been so intentionally cruel. Like, her comment to Phyllis at the end of the episode about the party was so incredibly vindictive. Struck me as odd. And having sex in the office? What happened to the woman who wouldn't even face Dwight in the break room when they were talking for fear of being caught.
I feel like there's going to be an announcement tomorrow like, BELATED APRIL FOOLS! The real season finale is next Thursday at 9pm. Tune in!
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OBVIOUSLY THEY JUST WANTED TO BE MEAN TO US. (Uh, my feelings on this have come to a point where I'm pretty sure the next comment you see from me will involve the words "meanies" or "buttheads".) Seriously, absolutely EVERYTHING seems more tolerable than... this. I mean, jesus, if Pam was disappointed in Jim for an actual reason it would have been more okay! But he was going to and he didn't get to and GOD DAMN IT.
You know, what they did with Angela it kind of reminds me of Jan's character assassination in "the Job". Plowing through storylines without thinking about the characters they have? I mean, why did Angela say "okay" to Andy? And what the hell is this Dwight thing? It's so ridiculously unAngela. UGH, WORLD.
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Just...MAN, WRITERS. I know they're all writing season five episodes right now so I feel like I should channel some RETURN TO FORM vibes or something.
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But it was a weird twist to have in there after all this "Jan doesn't want kids!" stuff. I just... I don't know. They've TOTALLY messed her up. I miss old Jan! It was so delightful to watch how upset she was with herself for kind of actually being attracted to Michael Scott.
You know, once upon a time I TRUSTED THAT WRITER'S ROOM.
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