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Apr 08, 2012 15:39

Poll v. serious poll

Reposted because the first time I made a "there can only be one" poll with CHECKBOXES, good job Alexandra!

once upon a time i was too cool for kpop

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elapses April 8 2012, 23:48:37 UTC
I hope they will just give up at some point in the next 6 months and let them promote together in Korea.
CRYING seriously this whole thing is kind of ridiculous!!! Like okay not to get absurdly wordy and overinvested on you (except ofc that is what I am about to do) but I feel like with SM bands the formations of the choreography are really specifically molded to the band/the specific members... besides who's singing what and when and dance ability, I honestly think height and popularity are taken into account when choreographers are working (maybe moreso with Suju and SNSD, where there are more bad dancers and more places to "hide" people), but you... can't really do that when you're working with two bands at once that are also kind of basically the same band???? I... JUST... I don't know. I remember making a :| face when I first read the China/Korea plan and even though I feel that way less now that they are a tangible thing it's still... awkward.

And they're all so like... traditionally good-looking??? I feel like M is weirder-looking (although I say that with affection, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S A LOT OF WHY I LIKE THEM BETTER?). I DON'T KNOW THOUGH, I don't think I'm at a point where I can decide who's better at what!!! RIGHT NOW WHAT I THINK IS THAT I REALLY LIKE MAMA (except for the Don't Don interlude towards the end, but I can live with that).

THEY DO!

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aliice April 9 2012, 00:25:43 UTC
but you... can't really do that when you're working with two bands at once that are also kind of basically the same band??? woooord

I remember making a :| face when I first read the China/Korea plan and even though I feel that way less now that they are a tangible thing it's still... awkward.
Yes, I feel like is creates like an immediate and inherent inequality between the groups. Not that the kids have any choice but promoting in China gives them less exposure and less fame. And plus they were all training in Korea and expecting to become kpop idols, not living that (esp for Chen and Xiumin WHO ARE KOREAN) dream makes me really sad for them. It's not even like 2pm/2am (where seriously like 2pm is more popular but 2am isn't exactly suffering..) I sound like a really crazy fangirl right now but we both know that it's not bc we like EXO that much it's because we like analyzing this stuff hahaha

I totally agree abt EXO-M's visuals... Tao (why is his face like that, i feel like he would be cast as an axe murderer in a movie) and Xiumin (like weird crossover of Ryewook and Sungmin lol).. and Luhan looks like a cartoon character. I swear. I KNOW ALL THEIR NAMES ALREADY THIS IS EMBARRASSING. I'm still having issues with EXO-K except Kai huhu.

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elapses April 9 2012, 00:52:34 UTC
Not that the kids have any choice but promoting in China gives them less exposure and less fame. And plus they were all training in Korea and expecting to become kpop idols, not living that (esp for Chen and Xiumin WHO ARE KOREAN) dream makes me really sad for them.
YES, ALL OF THIS. Especially since SM has never achieved real success while promoting in China (idk, I don't really know anything about how well Zhang Liyin did/sold there but presumably if she'd done really well commercially in China SM would be using her more?). I know "success in China" is what they're (optimistically) going for with Exo-M -- a band promoting there full time, with more Chinese skillz than Super Junior M, but if that's what they wanted it's frankly pretty cheap of them to try and get more bang out of their buck by making them "share" their singles with a Korean band (especially since a lot of SJM/SM's market in China is Chinese kpop fans). BECAUSE YEAH, it already kind of sucks that they're not getting to be ~kpop~ stars like they were training to be, but the really sad part is that Exo-K isn't even going to have to work to get recognition because that's what it is to be under SM in Korea, and... it's not like those six deserve it more than the other six. They were all in the same boat until they got split like this.

I sound like a really crazy fangirl right now but we both know that it's not bc we like EXO that much it's because we like analyzing this stuff hahaha
LOL YES, it's nice to have our little bubble where we know we're being intense because we like talking about stuff and not because we're that into Exo already.

LOOOOOOL YES ALL OF THAT IS ACCURATE. I also heard Kris described as the male Hyomin and I TOTALLY see it. I don't know Exo-M's names but I know them ALL by face, whereas Exo-K is still half-mush to me (I can generally do Chanyeol, Kai, and Sehun? ALTHOUGH CHANYEOL IS SUCH A GD CHAMELEON, he looks different every time a new video comes out, the only reason I can do him is bc I have been overinvested in him debuting for forever.)

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aliice April 9 2012, 02:27:42 UTC
IKRRRRR. Just like China is not very relevant in terms of cultural capital in the world music scene like for example they asked EXO-M who their favorite mainland Chinese artists were and Xiumin was like JJ Lin (who is from Singapore) and Jay Chou (who is Taiwanese). Like I don't even know who is popular in China.. their music industry is extremely saturated and there's no like go-to star like Jay or like Rain. I'm still hoping Hang Geng is gonna change that.. I don't know about Zhang Liyin (honestly, I don't know what her, Henry and Zhoumi do all day in Korea.. it must be kind of fun though!)

it's frankly pretty cheap of them to try and get more bang out of their buck by making them "share" their singles with a Korean band exactly! That's why I get so annoyed when they promote in Japan with their Korean singles in Japanese.. SNSD only got their like first japanese single (like that wasn't a korean song already) this year! I am waiting for shinee to bloom soon but srsly it'd be nice if they could promote an all-new song that wasn't recycled. I know it's money/time/effort for everyone but it's just kind of lame that they do that. Anyway back to EXO..

LOL KRIS AS THE MALE HYOMIN HAHHAA pretty much. Kris is like so srs all the time... I really want to see him smile.
Chanyeol is so great... esp their Korean showcase, HIS HAIR WAS SO RIDIC. ORLY? did you see his teaser or was he in something else before EXO??

i will end by saying that their mini just came out and I am super excited for that Two Moons song where Chanyeol and Kris rap "WAASSSUP"
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elapses April 9 2012, 03:30:20 UTC
Yeah :/ I mean it's one thing to tell your artists they're going to promote in China when they've already gotten to do Korea, and another to only have them in China.

(honestly, I don't know what her, Henry and Zhoumi do all day in Korea.. it must be kind of fun though!)
I would kill to be a part of that posse, ngl.

Oh my god SERIOUSLY, I can kind of deal with one remake as a "Japanese debut" but the number of songs people re-release is insane and irritating. And like, at least when SNSD was throwing those out they were also still doing (new) stuff in Korea?? But shinee was in Japan for FOREVER and it sucks that they don't have any new material to show for it.

HIS HAIR WAS OUT OF CONTROL, it was amazing. (He was the dude in the Japanese Genie mv!)

I WAS GOING TO MAKE FUN OF THEIR HIPSTER GLASSES BUT I GUESS THAT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY BLAND FOR SM STYLING

so I am just going to say they are adorable and then go track down those mini albums.

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