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gryfndor_godess September 15 2011, 00:16:14 UTC
The seeming regression of Buffy's maturity is the reason I'm already disappointed in S9 and not nearly as enthusiastic as I was when #40 came out. I haven't gotten my hands on the issue yet, but if Buffy actually did sleep with someone and was so drunk she can't remember and if that guy was not drunk, that's definitely assault and the fact that the writers are joking about it makes me queasy. It had better not have been Spike because out of all her potential bedmates he should know better and treat her with more respect.

This issue reminds me of the Ringer pilot in a lot of ways because there were so many spoilers in advance that there were no surprises left and the actual release itself can't help being anticlimactic.

That being said, do you know a download link I could use? Pretty please?

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eilowyn September 15 2011, 00:30:27 UTC
It is assault, and they are treating it very lightly if it's a possibility. I'm personally in the "Buffy didn't sleep with anyone, her room's just a mess" camp. It seemed like a "heh heh, let's have Buffy think she slept with someone she doesn't remember!" guy joke to me. And they did spoil too much beforehand, but they always do that.

I just wasn't as impressed as I was with Angel and Faith. I don't know what kind of twenty-somethings these are supposed to be. Maybe I'm just *that* boring, but all-night ragers seem more like a college thing to me, not a twenty-something thing. Oh, well. I expect Buffy will be allowed to mature eventually.

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norwie2010 September 15 2011, 00:33:02 UTC
Oh, well. I expect Buffy will be allowed to mature eventually.

That would require mature writers....

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infinitewhale September 15 2011, 00:45:01 UTC

They buried themselves in S8. There isn't anything they can acknowledge that wouldn't bring the story to a screeching halt because they have no explanation for the behavior.

I still say the issue is a play on that. "What did I do, why did I do what I did?" Good question, Buff.

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passionrlsusall September 15 2011, 02:47:48 UTC
So Ringer wasn't great, huh? I don't have very high hopes for it, but I just want to see Sarah. Any tips on where to dl it or watch online (without having to wait a week)?

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eilowyn September 15 2011, 04:30:35 UTC
cwtv.com says they'll be running an encore presentation of the premiere of Ringer on Friday night, so you can catch it then.

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passionrlsusall September 15 2011, 04:34:03 UTC
I don't get actual t.v., but thanks.

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passionrlsusall September 15 2011, 02:54:26 UTC
I was gonna say (and I don't and never have read any of the comics) it sounds like they jumped back to season 4 of the show.

Does reading those still make you feel the Buffyverse is continuing on? Because from the tidbits I've heard about them, I don't know if I could ever really connect it with the "reality" of the show, to feel like an actual continuation.

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eilowyn September 15 2011, 04:34:25 UTC
Having the story be about Buffy trying to find her place in the world in her twenties means they don't have to deal with the emotional aftermath of Season 8, so reality's a relative thing with the comics.

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eilowyn September 16 2011, 23:29:26 UTC
Reading them makes me feel that SOMETHING is continuing on, not necessarily the universe of the shows, but a side universe where up is down, black is white and Angel is a viable romantic partner.

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shipperx September 15 2011, 04:39:53 UTC
Apparently this is what Buffy's all about these days: convincing herself everything's okay, but she doesn't do much of a good job of it.

Maybe she'd do better if she skipped trying to tell herself everything is okay, and went to the part of admitting to herself that she (and Angel) made a series of really awful decisions, grieve... and then tried to forgive herself. Pretending 'everything is okay' is just avoidance.

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eilowyn September 16 2011, 23:32:08 UTC
I think one of the things that kinda pisses me off is that Buffy, Xander, Willow and Dawn weren't allowed to mourn Giles. They're given no grieving time because Giles is going to be busy over in Angel's book. This was a disappointment in terms of how much growth I thought Buffy had gone through in issue #40.

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willowgreen September 15 2011, 05:39:23 UTC
I actually liked the "Ringer" premiere. It was at least watchable, reasonably well written, and SMG was her best mournful/wisecracking self. Miles better than the whole first two seasons of "Star Trek: Next Generation." So I'm more than willing to give it a few more episodes and see where it goes.

I haven't seen the comic yet. It sounds grim, but I have it reserved at the comic book store, so I guess I'll have to give it a shot, too.

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eilowyn September 16 2011, 23:34:00 UTC
Haven't seen ST:TNG, but overall I found it a bit cheesy. I already have a five episode rule for new shows, and I owe SMG a couple more episodes, so I'll be taping New Girl next week in favor of watching Ringer.

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