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Jan 29, 2006 18:55

I was just invited to the fiftieth anniversary of old neighbors of mine where they will celebrate their years of happiness by renewing their marraige vows. Does anyone else find doing so under these circumstances odd? I understand a couple renewing their vows after being separated or riding out an affair, but people do this to celebrate their ( Read more... )

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Re: Vows of a lifetime. halloco February 1 2006, 17:44:08 UTC
"Why, though renew something that doesn't expire?" - Edrik

*slaps forehead*

Perhaps if you look at marriage beyond being just a legally/religiously binding contract between two consenting adults. I mean, it is that, yes... but that's now what those two people at the alter are thinking when they're up there.

Marriage, or rather the idea of marriage, is that it is the pinnacle of love for a couple. The willingness to want to spend every waking moment of your life with another person. It's love man. Love. Your wedding day is supposed to be that pinnacle, the creme de la creme, and overall one of the most wonderfully romantic moments in the life of your relationship. Renewing your vows, is akin to reliving that wonderful moment with the one you love. It's not a mental post it to say, "By the way, just a reminder, we're still hitched.", or a means to say, "I was horrible to you, had affairs, and all around was a big jack-ass. Let's start over!". While people may use it to mean that (because honestly, marriage these days just seems to be another stage of dating), I don't feel that's what renewing your vows was originally intended for.

I hope this helps you understand a bit more, Edrik. If not, I'm afraid a lobotomy is your only hope. :P

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that pinnacle... halloco February 1 2006, 18:25:49 UTC
"Your wedding day is supposed to be that pinnacle, the creme de la creme, and overall one of the most wonderfully romantic moments in the life of your relationship."

I respectfully disagree. In my personal oppinion, I fee that that is the idealized consumerism package that advertises .. and panders ... to an uninformed populus. ie. such a thought, while yes is what is 'wanted' and ideal, and seems more akin to a marrige industry (wedding dress manufactures, reception halls, bridal showers, wedding planners,) .. the American Dream. From that stand point, yes, there is no practical reason for one couple to renuew wedding vows, but not all things have practicality in mind when making decissions.

Actually, one might argue that the American consept of Honeymoon is actually that pinnacle, the creme de la creme, and overall one of the most wonderfully romantic moments in the life of your relationship. -if it can be afforded-.

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Re: that pinnacle... shadowzbecoming February 1 2006, 18:26:35 UTC
~Scully

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Re: that pinnacle... halloco February 1 2006, 20:22:25 UTC
"Your wedding day is supposed to be that pinnacle, the creme de la creme, and overall one of the most wonderfully romantic moments in the life of your relationship."

Perhaps I should reemphasize that point. It is not the ultimate pinnacle. It's is merely, and hopfully, one of many pinnacles. The honeymoon being another. Perhaps your first date as well, depending on how well that first date went. Who knows. But my point is that one's wedding day is a very important day for that couple.

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Unless it's a shotgun wedding... loaded shotgun included. :P

Also, you seem to have your mind stuck on a specific concept of what marriage is supposed to be. Marriage has hundreds, if not thousands of different variations. It's not all about wedding dress manufactures, reception halls, bridal showers, wedding planners, or the American dream. It can be just two people and a witness, living the Italian dream. There are so many different ways to perform a wedding, or a marriage, or a union, or whatever you wish to call it, that it's not even funny. But that's not why a couple would choose to renew their vows. What's important is the spirit of what is happening that day, not the method of how you're having it done. And that spirit is recaptured to some extent when you renew your vows.

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Re: that pinnacle... shadowzbecoming February 1 2006, 21:16:05 UTC
"mind stuck on a specific concept of what marriage is supposed to be." no, I was more pointing out that your previous statement regarding marriage as a pinnacle is one to hang oneself on, so to speak, shotguns need not apply.

As for where my mind is stuck, blame the poor parking job.

As for the rationality of one's choice in renewal of marriage vows, I simply presented one perspective as reason for why it might be such given the inital query as to the marital exspiration date precluding death.

As for it not being why a couple might renew thier vows, it may very well be so. You can not know if it is such until you have queried the couple in question of vow renual.

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Re: that pinnacle... halloco February 3 2006, 17:03:49 UTC
Wait? Your mind has the physical ability to park? Meaning that you have driven it around? LUCKY! I can't even get my mind into first gear! And don't even get me started about the crappy milage.

Have to say, I agree that you can't really know what a couples motive is for renewing their vows unless you go and ask them. I would only hope that it would be for the right reasons, and not, as Edrik put it, after being separated or riding out an affair. That they're initial motive for renewing their vows is love.

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God, my post have recently had so much sap in them, you people are probably wiping down your screens with pancakes. :P

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Re: that pinnacle... shadowzbecoming February 3 2006, 17:46:12 UTC
oh yeah, it parks often... and then, when it rains outside, I'll put it in drive and there it sits! Spinning and flinging mud just tring to move from the psot ptos stop spto spot... it parked in.

Right now, it says I'm hungry... I think I'd go for some pancakes right now if I liked pancakes. ^_^!

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Re: that pinnacle... shadowzbecoming February 4 2006, 00:31:36 UTC
I had red beans and rice + some pork chop suwey... now, I'm making pasta.

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Re: Vows of a lifetime. edrik February 3 2006, 02:22:55 UTC
Marraige should not but about any sort of contract and I never meant to imply otherwise. That was indeed the point. Marraige, as I recall, is about two people's dedication to each other and their pledge to spend the rest of thir lives together, no matter what. Hence the lack of an expiration.

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