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talktooloose January 29 2013, 22:05:55 UTC
Well, there is no utopia, so seeing where we're at and where we want to keep rowing is the only thing you can do. But you're always rowing upstream when you're trying to make the world a better place.

Utopian thinking means you believe you can stop rowing at some point. Nuh-uh.

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Upstream yes ... ed_rex January 30 2013, 22:43:02 UTC
... so it's worth taking a breather now and then, to see how far you've managed to row.

But you're quite right. If there is a utopia somewhere down the road (to change metaphors), I sure as hell don't pretend to know how or when we get there.

But I do know that the dignity that comes from being judged by your deeds and not your biology is one (of many) of the prerequisites.

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