Meta on Sam's powers & Demon blood

Apr 11, 2009 21:03


Samuel Winchester was born with an unknown psychic Potential. The Demon Azazel - perhaps having caught wind of the Future Prophet memo ten years before - had already scouted out the most likely parents-to-be for permission to enter their homes at a later date (possibly bypassing a looming Archangel's threat meter).

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shorofsky April 12 2009, 09:00:06 UTC
Intriguing idea that the demon blood wasn't an accelerator for Sam's powers, but a suppressant for them. So you're saying that Sam's visions and dreams are intrinsic to Sam and the other powers, the ones he's been using lately to pull demons, are basically borrowed from the demon blood which is keeping his *real* powers down?

I wonder if Dean doesn't have a bit of the same abilities that Sam did at first. In s1 he used to say that he felt things and that he saw things, but it was never mentioned after s2 began so don't know.

What's your take on Lillith's offer? On how she couldn't do anything to Sam and he couldn't do anything to her?

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echo_grace_07 April 13 2009, 20:29:47 UTC
. . . the other powers, the ones he's been using lately to pull demons, are basically borrowed from the demon blood which is keeping his *real* powers down?
Short answer: yes. Though now I'm starting to play with a slight reverse-extension on that . . . I'll get back to you. :)

I'm holding out hope that Dean's got a little something, too. A mild telepathy for those he's emotionally attached to, perhaps.

Lilith has officially killed herself with that offer. Killing Dean had been bad enough - her clock undoubtedly started ticking then - but threatening Sammy? Even indirectly? That bitch's goin' down! Dean won't stand for it.
On the power!battlefront: Alistair had surely mentioned Sam's abilities (and Ruby's "betrayal," though the jury's still out on that) in a previous debriefing, so she probably went in prepared for an attempted yanking. On why she can't touch Sam . . . there's already a few theories out there. Any opinion I have isn't very solid or original, yet.

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yourlibrarian April 12 2009, 19:25:03 UTC
Without the blood connection, Azazel has no way to track Sam

Blood connection as in the long-distance calling use of blood? Because I'm really entertained at thinking that the demon-blood is a form of kid-GPS :D

But yes, I don't think I've seen anyone suggest before that it's a form of control for the abilities. Interesting.

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echo_grace_07 April 13 2009, 19:44:27 UTC
Heh, GPS would be pretty accurate. :D
. . . Though it makes me wonder why Ruby's using a cellphone, now -- as a cover, maybe, to avoid suspicion?

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etoile444 April 12 2009, 19:54:29 UTC
Well I'm pretty convinced the demon blood wasa communication device. But your idea that Azazel's blood acts as a power suppressant was clever. As you said...only Kripke knows for sure.

I would love the irony if Sam's powers were angelic. If his powers come from Mary, then I'd be okay if Dean had them too.

Maybe there is a point to episode 4.19. ???

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echo_grace_07 April 13 2009, 19:32:13 UTC
Who says they didn't come from John? ;)
My only "knowledge" of 4x19 comes from the promo, which can be misleading. What's your spoiler policy?

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impulsiveanswer April 13 2009, 16:34:37 UTC
Awesome theory! The demon blood suppressing a natural, possibly God-gifted, power definitely has merit (and would be a fantastic twist).

In the interim the infected child will grow up sensing something greater, something special within that he or she cannot access. The (likely subconscious) frustration will cause the child to either act out or shut down, alienating him/her from his/her strongest supports, and fully abandon them in a new world when the paralyzed muscle finally begins to spasm awake.

I wonder if the alienation experienced between some of the psykids and their families is more of a design of the YED than a subconscious frustration. Because of the YED's attack Max's father blamed his son for his wife's death; and John always had to have had the fact that the demon was in Sam's room in the back of his mind.

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echo_grace_07 April 13 2009, 19:26:44 UTC
It's possible that it was part of the plan - the question, even unvoiced, probably did exacerbate the situation. How big of a part it played, I dunno.

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isaacsapphire April 19 2009, 06:36:07 UTC
Interesting theory, although it doesn't account for why the YED treated the children in age grouped batches. Would suggest some interesting things about Dean though, as he dodged the demon blood bullet by being born too soon.

If the abilities are innate, it stands to logic that Dean has some too, which is supported in several episodes. Although I honestly wonder how many hunters have slight psychic abilities, use them ("something doesn't feel right"), but subconsciously suppress their own knowledge of them because everything supernatural is assumed to be evil.

Lilith's offer is interesting in that she wanted both of the boys dead, not just one or the other. Interesting also in that she thought that Sam has "ownership rights" to Dean and can trade his life away. She's probably correct in that, but very interesting all the same.

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echo_grace_07 April 28 2009, 00:03:18 UTC
The lore on psychic abilities suggests it's something like red hair, or Downs Syndrome. All the genetic cards have to fall just right for it to click on. Personally, I think both boys have a little something extra, but Dean's "thing," unmessed-with, integrated into his life to where - if anyone noticed - it became a "Deanism."

Or it's born in a Near-Death Experience . . . which Winchesters are known for. :D

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