The CAPSLOCK Pit
Okay, um, so we got a bit CAPSLOCKY with squee during rewatching this, so consider yourself warned. Heh.
ivydoor: Seriously, I couldn't place the voice of the beast first time I watched it but it freaked me out beyond the norm. Then I discovered he did the voice of the character who gave me childhood nightmares.
dettiot: ooooooo. that's creepy
ivydoor: Of course, it was the same character that everyone speculated when he was cast (I found this out later) Sutekh.
dettiot: ahhhhh.
ivydoor: I love that he doesn't answer her.
dettiot: I love the Doctor trying ot reassure her and not really being able to
ivydoor: now. Strategy 9. same code for the Doctor in 21st century Torchwood/UNIT.
dettiot: oooo!!! nice catch
dettiot: I like this with seeing Ida has that natural curiosity.
dettiot: "Fools rush in where angels fear to tread!"
ivydoor: Yeah. Ida for companion. I really loved their chemistry.
dettiot: I love this speech.
ivydoor: Me too.
dettiot: and it's odd that hte Doctor backs off. I wonder why.
ivydoor: heh "Now I know I'm getting old."
dettiot: [giggle]
ivydoor: Old=emotionally attatched.
dettiot: ooooh. nice. very true, too.
dettiot: random note: I love Rose's jacket.
ivydoor: yes.
dettiot: [lusts after that jacket]
dettiot: I love that the Doctor will ask questions in a time like this.
ivydoor: GOD GLOWING EYES FTW
ivydoor: Creepy as hell.
ivydoor: Although "What does before tiem mean?" sounds like he has a cold. LOL
dettiot: The Ood in and of themselves are creepy, but now, creepy times 10!!!
dettiot: [giggel]
dettiot: I love this bit.
ivydoor: Me too.
dettiot: the valiant child who will die in battle so very soon . . . GAH, RTD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ivydoor: I love the very natural panic that sets in.
dettiot: god, yeah. and then the Doctor bringing the logic, only . . .
dettiot: [sniff] he so loves humans here . . . and then you see him in 42, and he doesn't. Torchwood did a number on him
ivydoor: Yeah. I know. It kills me.
ivydoor: Another bloody quarry.
ivydoor: heh.
dettiot: yep.
dettiot: situation report? pretty damn bad.
ivydoor: Okay, I know this is supposed to be creepy, but the Oood with a bolt cutter CRACKS ME UP
dettiot: I love Rose rallying the troops. So perfect
ivydoor: Me too.
dettiot: again, building on what she learned in TIL
dettiot: and everything else up to this point
ivydoor: I know she's looked down on for this but she really needed to do this or everyone would have collapsed on themselves. An she'll be damned if she's going to let the Doctor die down there.
dettiot: exactly. she's gonna do everything she can to rescue the Doctor.
ivydoor: yep.
dettiot: It's almost like this is her version of hte Doctor's moment in Boomtown. "You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna rescue him. I'm gonna rescue the Doctor."
ivydoor: Yes.
dettiot: hee!!! Tesco's!!!!
ivydoor: HEE
dettiot: whereas the TARDIS has a swimming pool. Probably a Tesco's, too
ivydoor: HEE
ivydoor: I love the "Mr. Jefferson Suhr"
dettiot: it's so awesome how they're all working together here. very clear that they're really a good team.
ivydoor: They are.
dettiot: this bit, I've always loved. I wrote a fic based partly on this.
dettiot: and the vodka is hitting me
dettiot: I so love the Doctor just jumping in, feet first. so him.
ivydoor: Heh. I love the not!10miles of cable.
dettiot: [snerk] well, cutbacks, you know. And it is the BBC.
ivydoor: Hee!
dettiot: I love the arse checking out, even in the midst of huge danger
ivydoor: Ha! I love the whole rear end joke
ivydoor: I have to wonder about the "could be worse" thing. Hee!
dettiot: and they're crawling through Jeffries tubes!!! This is a total Star Trek set of eps
ivydoor: It really is.
ivydoor: Heh. And they even work in a fart joke.
dettiot: well, it's DW. it's for kids. [grin]
ivydoor: It's like RTD has a mandate for at least one fart joke per series.
ivydoor: Hee!
dettiot: yep!!!
ivydoor: As if the Ood weren't creepy enough!
dettiot: god, yeah!
dettiot: and I love Mr. Jefferson here.
ivydoor: Me too.
dettiot: such a great moment here with Zack and Jefferson
ivydoor: GAH
ivydoor: it is. *sniff8
dettiot: [sniffs]
dettiot: it's the humane thing to do, take away the air
ivydoor: I know. But it's still hard to watch.
dettiot: OMG, and the jump you get when you see the Ood there!
ivydoor: I KNOW
ivydoor: AHHHHH
ivydoor: GAH
dettiot: and Toby double-corssing them!!!
ivydoor: I know! he's just so EVIL.
dettiot: god, yes.
ivydoor: The Captain wth just pone bolt.
dettiot: yeah!
dettiot: saved in the nick of time
dettiot: I love that shot of hte Doctor on the wire, amidst all that black
ivydoor: I absolutely adore this conversation with Ida.
dettiot: me, too.
dettiot: this is such a Doctor moment. "I could survive 30 feet"
ivydoor: It is.
dettiot: oh, how heart-wrenching is this?
ivydoor: *ignores the math of 10 miles down in under 59 minutes*
ivydoor: I KNOW
ivydoor: Poor Rose.
ivydoor: And the Doctor.
ivydoor: And Ida knows. She does. And she doesn't tell Rose to save her the heartache.
dettiot: I do so love that he can't articulate what he has faith in, at this moment. But then, when he's really pressed, he can.
dettiot: she so does.
dettiot: I mean, even with just meeting htem, she knows.
ivydoor: Oooo. Good point.
ivydoor: She does. That glance she made at Rose when he says the TARDIS is the only thing he has tells you all there is to know.
dettiot: and yay, Doctor's theme!
ivydoor: Yes.
ivydoor: OH SHE KNOWS
dettiot: and "Oh, she KNOWS!!!!!!!"
ivydoor: YES SHE DOES
dettiot: and it always breaks my heart that Rose comes through just after he's cut his line
ivydoor: Yes
ivydoor: She always just misses it.
dettiot: god, look at Billie's face.
ivydoor: I know.
dettiot: awwwwwwwwwww. Gah, make me think of Doomsday NOW??? [sniffs]
ivydoor: Hee!
dettiot: evil you are.
ivydoor: yes I am.
ivydoor: Just ask my kids.
dettiot: although there is not enough alchol to make Doomsday unsad.
ivydoor: I know!
ivydoor: GAH
ivydoor: I love that she KNOWS he'd wait.
dettiot: I love Rose wanting to stay.
dettiot: Roooooooooose. [sniffles]
ivydoor: I KNOW
dettiot: and she fights so hard. but just imagine if they hadn't brought her with them!!!! gah.
ivydoor: I know. And the Doctor knows it too.
ivydoor: Could you imagine him asking if Rose was there and they said "No"
dettiot: OMG the ANGST!!!!!!!!!
ivydoor: I KNOW
dettiot: poor Rose. Feeling like she's abandoning the Doctor
dettiot: and he so knows that Rose is gone, I think, when he says "The rocket."
ivydoor: I love the RTD interpratation fo the whole "I will always come for you" thing. They keep getting seperated further and further apart but they will always find each other.
dettiot: [nods] until what you think is the ultimtae separation, short of death . . .
ivydoor: Yep.
ivydoor: I LOVE DT HERE
dettiot: and I had such huge respect for actors who work with greenscreen, and DT in particular, when I saw the deleted scenes and what it's like when you have nothing to work with
ivydoor: And the effects? Brilliant.
dettiot: DT is amazing here.
ivydoor: He really is.
dettiot: Does Britain have an equivalent to the Emmys?
ivydoor: I think so, can't remember what they're called though.
dettiot: god, the Beast is seventeen kinds of creepy
ivydoor: IT IS.
dettiot: then DT so deserves several of them.
ivydoor: Seriously, the Mill outdid themselves here.
ivydoor: he really does.
dettiot: I love all these little cuts of "Oh! No! Yes! No!"
ivydoor: HEE
ivydoor: me too.
dettiot: you can see him figuring things out
ivydoor: The hamster on teh wheel is on overdrive.
dettiot: [giggle]
ivydoor: And he realizes what's with Rose.
dettiot: because really, when you picture Ten's mind? It's a hamster on a wheel.
ivydoor: hee!
dettiot: and he's scared shitless.
ivydoor: it's a dozen hamsters all fighting for the same wheel.
ivydoor: It really does scare him.
dettiot: uh-huh. I mean, he's come as close as he's ever comde to saying what he feels for Rose, and he's got to think about her being in such danger? Without him? H
ivydoor: And the Beast knows what leverage to use against him.
ivydoor: The TARDIS isn't what it uses. It's ROSE.
dettiot: it does. a nd it revels in the fact that he can do that to the Doctor.
dettiot: Of course not. it's Rose, so clearly.
ivydoor: Yep.
dettiot: you know, this could almost be a parallel to School Reunion, I think.
ivydoor: I LOVE HIS CONFIDENCE IN HER
ivydoor: It really could.
dettiot: "I BELIEVE IN HER."
dettiot: WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH.
dettiot: It could be becaues I'm drunk, but oh man, this is so sad.
ivydoor: THE BAD WOLF > THE BEAST
ivydoor: It is.
ivydoor: Heh. I do love the little "rawr" motiion he makes at the beast.
dettiot: OMG, this ep is so creepy, amikdst the shippy goodness
ivydoor: GAH
dettiot: yeah!!! I had never noticed that bfore until now!
ivydoor: The guy who plays Toby nails this.
ivydoor: CREEPY
dettiot: ROSE FOR THE WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
ivydoor: And the Rose kicks his ass.
dettiot: And look at Rose, trying to tell herself that at least they stopped him, but so sad about losing the Doctor adn dying, in that order
ivydoor: Yep.
dettiot: I love the Doctor's glee at the TARDIS. HOORAY!!!!!!!1
ivydoor: THE SQUEE HEARD ROUND THE UNIVERSE
dettiot: [giggle]
ivydoor: I love the captain.
ivydoor: "How 'bout that. History."
dettiot: I love rose, just sitting there, her eyes closed
ivydoor: Yes.
dettiot: yay, Doctor!!!!
ivydoor: WOOOOOOO
dettiot: AND OMG, ROSE'S GLEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ivydoor: She's SO RELIEVED
dettiot: omg, yes!!!
ivydoor: IDAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
ivydoor: I'm so glad she survived. I really hope we see her again.
dettiot: me, too. [wants Where There's a Will to be made into the spcecila]s
dettiot: OMG YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ivydoor: YES
dettiot: best hug ever. [sighs]
ivydoor: OMGSQUEEEEEHUG
ivydoor: IT IS
ivydoor: So cute.
dettiot: wheras in my personal fanon, the Docto rand Rose probably had sex now.
ivydoor: you just know she tore that suit off of him. ;)
dettiot: uh-huh.
ivydoor: She's looking rumpled? Yep.
dettiot: and it KILLS ME DEAD knowing that this is the last scnee they shot for s2
ivydoor: I KNOW
ivydoor: GAH
ivydoor: And DT KILLS ME
dettiot: they both do. they kill me
dettiot: STUFF OF LEGEND
dettiot: waaaaaaaah.
ivydoor: Stuff of Legend. It's no longer just a title for him like it was in TCI.
dettiot: [nods] and it's not just about him. it's about Rose, too
ivydoor: it is.
ivydoor: Seriously, I couldn't place the voice of the beast first time I watched it but it freaked me out beyond the norm. Then I discovered he did the voice of the character who gave me childhood nightmares.
dettiot: ooooooo. that's creepy
ivydoor: Of course, it was the same character that everyone speculated when he was cast (I found this out later) Sutekh.
dettiot: ahhhhh.
ivydoor: I love that he doesn't answer her.
dettiot: I love the Doctor trying ot reassure her and not really being able to
ivydoor: now. Strategy 9. same code for the Doctor in 21st century Torchwood/UNIT.
dettiot: oooo!!! nice catch
dettiot: I like this with seeing Ida has that natural curiosity.
dettiot: "Fools rush in where angels fear to tread!"
ivydoor: Yeah. Ida for companion. I really loved their chemistry.
dettiot: I love this speech.
ivydoor: Me too.
dettiot: and it's odd that hte Doctor backs off. I wonder why.
ivydoor: heh "Now I know I'm getting old."
dettiot: [giggle]
ivydoor: Old=emotionally attatched.
dettiot: ooooh. nice. very true, too.
dettiot: random note: I love Rose's jacket.
ivydoor: yes.
dettiot: [lusts after that jacket]
dettiot: I love that the Doctor will ask questions in a time like this.
ivydoor: GOD GLOWING EYES FTW
ivydoor: Creepy as hell.
ivydoor: Although "What does before tiem mean?" sounds like he has a cold. LOL
dettiot: The Ood in and of themselves are creepy, but now, creepy times 10!!!
dettiot: [giggel]
dettiot: I love this bit.
ivydoor: Me too.
dettiot: the valiant child who will die in battle so very soon . . . GAH, RTD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ivydoor: I love the very natural panic that sets in.
dettiot: god, yeah. and then the Doctor bringing the logic, only . . .
dettiot: [sniff] he so loves humans here . . . and then you see him in 42, and he doesn't. Torchwood did a number on him
ivydoor: Yeah. I know. It kills me.
ivydoor: Another bloody quarry.
ivydoor: heh.
dettiot: yep.
dettiot: situation report? pretty damn bad.
ivydoor: Okay, I know this is supposed to be creepy, but the Oood with a bolt cutter CRACKS ME UP
dettiot: I love Rose rallying the troops. So perfect
ivydoor: Me too.
dettiot: again, building on what she learned in TIL
dettiot: and everything else up to this point
ivydoor: I know she's looked down on for this but she really needed to do this or everyone would have collapsed on themselves. An she'll be damned if she's going to let the Doctor die down there.
dettiot: exactly. she's gonna do everything she can to rescue the Doctor.
ivydoor: yep.
dettiot: It's almost like this is her version of hte Doctor's moment in Boomtown. "You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna rescue him. I'm gonna rescue the Doctor."
ivydoor: Yes.
dettiot: hee!!! Tesco's!!!!
ivydoor: HEE
dettiot: whereas the TARDIS has a swimming pool. Probably a Tesco's, too
ivydoor: HEE
ivydoor: I love the "Mr. Jefferson Suhr"
dettiot: it's so awesome how they're all working together here. very clear that they're really a good team.
ivydoor: They are.
dettiot: this bit, I've always loved. I wrote a fic based partly on this.
dettiot: and the vodka is hitting me
dettiot: I so love the Doctor just jumping in, feet first. so him.
ivydoor: Heh. I love the not!10miles of cable.
dettiot: [snerk] well, cutbacks, you know. And it is the BBC.
ivydoor: Hee!
dettiot: I love the arse checking out, even in the midst of huge danger
ivydoor: Ha! I love the whole rear end joke
ivydoor: I have to wonder about the "could be worse" thing. Hee!
dettiot: and they're crawling through Jeffries tubes!!! This is a total Star Trek set of eps
ivydoor: It really is.
ivydoor: Heh. And they even work in a fart joke.
dettiot: well, it's DW. it's for kids. [grin]
ivydoor: It's like RTD has a mandate for at least one fart joke per series.
ivydoor: Hee!
dettiot: yep!!!
ivydoor: As if the Ood weren't creepy enough!
dettiot: god, yeah!
dettiot: and I love Mr. Jefferson here.
ivydoor: Me too.
dettiot: such a great moment here with Zack and Jefferson
ivydoor: GAH
ivydoor: it is. *sniff8
dettiot: [sniffs]
dettiot: it's the humane thing to do, take away the air
ivydoor: I know. But it's still hard to watch.
dettiot: OMG, and the jump you get when you see the Ood there!
ivydoor: I KNOW
ivydoor: AHHHHH
ivydoor: GAH
dettiot: and Toby double-corssing them!!!
ivydoor: I know! he's just so EVIL.
dettiot: god, yes.
ivydoor: The Captain wth just pone bolt.
dettiot: yeah!
dettiot: saved in the nick of time
dettiot: I love that shot of hte Doctor on the wire, amidst all that black
ivydoor: I absolutely adore this conversation with Ida.
dettiot: me, too.
dettiot: this is such a Doctor moment. "I could survive 30 feet"
ivydoor: It is.
dettiot: oh, how heart-wrenching is this?
ivydoor: *ignores the math of 10 miles down in under 59 minutes*
ivydoor: I KNOW
ivydoor: Poor Rose.
ivydoor: And the Doctor.
ivydoor: And Ida knows. She does. And she doesn't tell Rose to save her the heartache.
dettiot: I do so love that he can't articulate what he has faith in, at this moment. But then, when he's really pressed, he can.
dettiot: she so does.
dettiot: I mean, even with just meeting htem, she knows.
ivydoor: Oooo. Good point.
ivydoor: She does. That glance she made at Rose when he says the TARDIS is the only thing he has tells you all there is to know.
dettiot: and yay, Doctor's theme!
ivydoor: Yes.
ivydoor: OH SHE KNOWS
dettiot: and "Oh, she KNOWS!!!!!!!"
ivydoor: YES SHE DOES
dettiot: and it always breaks my heart that Rose comes through just after he's cut his line
ivydoor: Yes
ivydoor: She always just misses it.
dettiot: god, look at Billie's face.
ivydoor: I know.
dettiot: awwwwwwwwwww. Gah, make me think of Doomsday NOW??? [sniffs]
ivydoor: Hee!
dettiot: evil you are.
ivydoor: yes I am.
ivydoor: Just ask my kids.
dettiot: although there is not enough alchol to make Doomsday unsad.
ivydoor: I know!
ivydoor: GAH
ivydoor: I love that she KNOWS he'd wait.
dettiot: I love Rose wanting to stay.
dettiot: Roooooooooose. [sniffles]
ivydoor: I KNOW
dettiot: and she fights so hard. but just imagine if they hadn't brought her with them!!!! gah.
ivydoor: I know. And the Doctor knows it too.
ivydoor: Could you imagine him asking if Rose was there and they said "No"
dettiot: OMG the ANGST!!!!!!!!!
ivydoor: I KNOW
dettiot: poor Rose. Feeling like she's abandoning the Doctor
dettiot: and he so knows that Rose is gone, I think, when he says "The rocket."
ivydoor: I love the RTD interpratation fo the whole "I will always come for you" thing. They keep getting seperated further and further apart but they will always find each other.
dettiot: [nods] until what you think is the ultimtae separation, short of death . . .
ivydoor: Yep.
ivydoor: I LOVE DT HERE
dettiot: and I had such huge respect for actors who work with greenscreen, and DT in particular, when I saw the deleted scenes and what it's like when you have nothing to work with
ivydoor: And the effects? Brilliant.
dettiot: DT is amazing here.
ivydoor: He really is.
dettiot: Does Britain have an equivalent to the Emmys?
ivydoor: I think so, can't remember what they're called though.
dettiot: god, the Beast is seventeen kinds of creepy
ivydoor: IT IS.
dettiot: then DT so deserves several of them.
ivydoor: Seriously, the Mill outdid themselves here.
ivydoor: he really does.
dettiot: I love all these little cuts of "Oh! No! Yes! No!"
ivydoor: HEE
ivydoor: me too.
dettiot: you can see him figuring things out
ivydoor: The hamster on teh wheel is on overdrive.
dettiot: [giggle]
ivydoor: And he realizes what's with Rose.
dettiot: because really, when you picture Ten's mind? It's a hamster on a wheel.
ivydoor: hee!
dettiot: and he's scared shitless.
ivydoor: it's a dozen hamsters all fighting for the same wheel.
ivydoor: It really does scare him.
dettiot: uh-huh. I mean, he's come as close as he's ever comde to saying what he feels for Rose, and he's got to think about her being in such danger? Without him? H
ivydoor: And the Beast knows what leverage to use against him.
ivydoor: The TARDIS isn't what it uses. It's ROSE.
dettiot: it does. a nd it revels in the fact that he can do that to the Doctor.
dettiot: Of course not. it's Rose, so clearly.
ivydoor: Yep.
dettiot: you know, this could almost be a parallel to School Reunion, I think.
ivydoor: I LOVE HIS CONFIDENCE IN HER
ivydoor: It really could.
dettiot: "I BELIEVE IN HER."
dettiot: WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH.
dettiot: It could be becaues I'm drunk, but oh man, this is so sad.
ivydoor: THE BAD WOLF > THE BEAST
ivydoor: It is.
ivydoor: Heh. I do love the little "rawr" motiion he makes at the beast.
dettiot: OMG, this ep is so creepy, amikdst the shippy goodness
ivydoor: GAH
dettiot: yeah!!! I had never noticed that bfore until now!
ivydoor: The guy who plays Toby nails this.
ivydoor: CREEPY
dettiot: ROSE FOR THE WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
ivydoor: And the Rose kicks his ass.
dettiot: And look at Rose, trying to tell herself that at least they stopped him, but so sad about losing the Doctor adn dying, in that order
ivydoor: Yep.
dettiot: I love the Doctor's glee at the TARDIS. HOORAY!!!!!!!1
ivydoor: THE SQUEE HEARD ROUND THE UNIVERSE
dettiot: [giggle]
ivydoor: I love the captain.
ivydoor: "How 'bout that. History."
dettiot: I love rose, just sitting there, her eyes closed
ivydoor: Yes.
dettiot: yay, Doctor!!!!
ivydoor: WOOOOOOO
dettiot: AND OMG, ROSE'S GLEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ivydoor: She's SO RELIEVED
dettiot: omg, yes!!!
ivydoor: IDAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
ivydoor: I'm so glad she survived. I really hope we see her again.
dettiot: me, too. [wants Where There's a Will to be made into the spcecila]s
dettiot: OMG YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ivydoor: YES
dettiot: best hug ever. [sighs]
ivydoor: OMGSQUEEEEEHUG
ivydoor: IT IS
ivydoor: So cute.
dettiot: wheras in my personal fanon, the Docto rand Rose probably had sex now.
ivydoor: you just know she tore that suit off of him. ;)
dettiot: uh-huh.
ivydoor: She's looking rumpled? Yep.
dettiot: and it KILLS ME DEAD knowing that this is the last scnee they shot for s2
ivydoor: I KNOW
ivydoor: GAH
ivydoor: And DT KILLS ME
dettiot: they both do. they kill me
dettiot: STUFF OF LEGEND
dettiot: waaaaaaaah.
ivydoor: Stuff of Legend. It's no longer just a title for him like it was in TCI.
dettiot: [nods] and it's not just about him. it's about Rose, too
ivydoor: it is.