7x01 Asylum of the Daleks discussion post

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When we restarted this comm most people voted for us to have discussion posts for new episodes as they aired. Since we do rewatch posts on Saturday, we figure we'll do the discussion posts for the new episodes on Sunday, after you've hopefully had a bit of time to digest.

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[_thirty2flavors]

1. I didn't care much about this stuff when I first watched, but the more I think about it the dumber it becomes. I mean, Dalek mythology is never gonna be my number one priority, so... whatever, but I still think it IS pretty stupid. Skaro wasn't even necessary for one, it was just there for the "omg" moment, but supposedly Skaro was destroyed so ? IDEK. The constant changes to what a Dalek is are a bit annoying as well since Daleks are meant to be the ultimate in racial cleansing. Your standards are slipping, Daleks.

Also, "we can't kill them because their hatred is beautiful but we want to kill them so help us" was ... what?

2. L O L the Pond stuff was TERRIBLE. Terrible. It was shoehorned in there to grab headlines ("the Ponds divorce/!?!?!") and give Amy and Rory something to do while the plot exists around them. Amy's infertility and their struggle over whether or not to have more kids would be interesting if it were explored well, but it wasn't. And o i c @ Amy's abuse at the hands of her kidnappers turning into something that might make Rory sad, or whatever. Just, whatever, I'm so over the Ponds and their awful writing at this point that it's funny to me.

And then someone pointed out to me that it seems to be that the Doctor waits to give Amy his bracelet -- he doesn't seem to need it after all -- because he wants to manipulate her and Rory into getting back together. WHAT. Amy is tripping balls in this episode, she's scared, she's TURNING INTO A DALEK and the Doctor is okay with all of that happening and not helping her when he could be helping her because he wants to manipulate her and Rory back together. Uhhhhhhhh okay, thanks Doctor.

3. lol a great example of how few shits the show gives about developing Amy Pond's life outside of or after the Doctor. Also the photoshoot styling was pretty bad sry2say.

4. I don't really get how them forgetting the Doctor helps anyone. He's often used that fear as protection, and there are many times the only reason he's not died is because the Daleks know him as a threat more important than the average human. Why would they not just kill him on sight next time?

Also, the "Doctor Who?" scenes were terrible. I die a little inside every time someone makes that joke and this was many someones making that joke over and over ugh second hand embarrassing.

5. Oswin made and saved this episode for me. Despite all the above negativity, I'd say this is my favourite Moffat-written episode since s5, and all because I thought Oswin was incredibly charming. I really liked JLC's performance and since I was unspoiled for her being there, that thrilled me too. I was bored until she showed up. There are some things that grated on me ("it's a phase!") and I really, REALLY hope that whatever the connection is between Oswin and Future Companion it's NOT a rehash of River Song, but overall I found Oswin very charming and I thought her story and the "twist" that she's a Dalek was sweet. Even if it makes no sense that they heard her sweet girl voice most of the ep.

I do worry that showing her now just teased me and now I'll be even more bored for the remaining four episodes of Amy and Rory, though.